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I tried ShS. I liked the big openers in BGs.
Stop right there..
ShS with daggers = epicfail
ShS with swords/maces = teh **** lol
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Stop right there..
ShS with daggers = epicfail
ShS with swords/maces = teh **** lol
Speedburst wrote:
Quote:
I tried ShS. I liked the big openers in BGs.
Stop right there..
ShS with daggers = epicfail
ShS with swords/maces = teh **** lol
So by speccing 0/18/43 I can do better in Arena?
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So by speccing 0/18/43 I can do better in Arena?
Well yes, but i would go 17/44 for bigger crits but less sustained damage, this is what i just spec'ed to (kinda similar to theo's)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=foeboxZZxMe0MGRsxst
Cheers
Quote:
Stop right there..
ShS with daggers = epicfail
ShS with swords/maces = teh **** lol
1) Ambush.
2)Weaponswap macro to maces/swords/
3) ???
4) Profit.
Kavekk wrote:
Quote:
Stop right there..
ShS with daggers = epicfail
ShS with swords/maces = teh **** lol
1) Ambush.
2)Weaponswap macro to maces/swords/
3) ???
4) Profit.
DONT USE AMBUSH IN THE ARENA.
Carmeliens wrote:
So by speccing 0/18/43 I can do better in Arena?
20/0/41 or 17/0/44 or 16/0/45. You need at least 11 points in assass for relentless+ruthless, and having less than 10 pts in combat is pointless. Unless you go 17/3/41 for imp gouge or something.
With http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboEMsizVoZxrI0Mh
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
Carmeliens wrote:
With http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboEMsizVoZxrI0Mh
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
without either 5/5 DWspec or 5/5 opportunity, your damage is gimped.
Initiative is crap in a mut build.
Speedburst wrote:
Quote:
So by speccing 0/18/43 I can do better in Arena?
Well yes, but i would go 17/44 for bigger crits but less sustained damage, this is what i just spec'ed to (kinda similar to theo's)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=foeboxZZxMe0MGRsxst
Cheers
5/5 Vile Poisons is worth more than a few extra talents in Sub.
DrMayhem wrote:
Carmeliens wrote:
With http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboEMsizVoZxrI0Mh
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
I wait for the Imp KS, use my cold blood. Was getting some really mean crits with CB and mutilate. 3800 was my highest, with regular blues from Outland, 2 ced's carvers
without either 5/5 DWspec or 5/5 opportunity, your damage is gimped.
Initiative is crap in a mut build.
Thank you for pointing that out. I'm still learning the art of speccing. I'll change it around to the way you suggested and give it a go.
ya know, its funny people say that, but my rogue friend swears by the 20 points he has in sub. cant stand having them in combat he says.
*shrug* im no expert, i just think its interesting is all.
*shrug* im no expert, i just think its interesting is all.
I love the rogue boards. Nowhere else do you see such discussions of a couple of talent points. I don't care how many wrongs rogues have been dealt over the years, it's a cool freakin' class.
So anyway, back on topic. I'm not looking at armory now, but what % chance to crit does ~400resil reduce? Around 20% or so? Adding 15% back to that seems like a pretty useful buff. Of course you still have the % crit dmg reduction that resil gives you, but c'mon, you can't have it all.
edit: Checked and my mage has 350resil for an 8.8% crit chance reduction. 15% bonus crit chance on muti is sounding even better (for you guys). Nerf rogues! ;)
Edited, Feb 22nd 2008 12:02pm by AynLoD
So anyway, back on topic. I'm not looking at armory now, but what % chance to crit does ~400resil reduce? Around 20% or so? Adding 15% back to that seems like a pretty useful buff. Of course you still have the % crit dmg reduction that resil gives you, but c'mon, you can't have it all.
edit: Checked and my mage has 350resil for an 8.8% crit chance reduction. 15% bonus crit chance on muti is sounding even better (for you guys). Nerf rogues! ;)
Edited, Feb 22nd 2008 12:02pm by AynLoD
personally i like 20 pts in sub for serrated blades + elusiveness. But Im a scrub lowlife.
It seems like every *good rogue running mut has 10/10 poisons or even 12/12 poisons (with master poisoner) (Zyz, Xasha, Xecks). Many of them have 49+ points in assass.
Seikun swears by 41/20/0.
If Blizz fixed that whole target-must-be-poisoned thing, it would open up a good number of talent points.
It seems like every *good rogue running mut has 10/10 poisons or even 12/12 poisons (with master poisoner) (Zyz, Xasha, Xecks). Many of them have 49+ points in assass.
Seikun swears by 41/20/0.
If Blizz fixed that whole target-must-be-poisoned thing, it would open up a good number of talent points.
DrMayhem wrote:
personally i like 20 pts in sub for serrated blades + elusiveness. But Im a scrub lowlife.
It seems like every *good rogue running mut has 10/10 poisons or even 12/12 poisons (with master poisoner) (Zyz, Xasha, Xecks). Many of them have 49+ points in assass.
Seikun swears by 41/20/0.
If Blizz fixed that whole target-must-be-poisoned thing, it would open up a good number of talent points.
It seems like every *good rogue running mut has 10/10 poisons or even 12/12 poisons (with master poisoner) (Zyz, Xasha, Xecks). Many of them have 49+ points in assass.
Seikun swears by 41/20/0.
If Blizz fixed that whole target-must-be-poisoned thing, it would open up a good number of talent points.
No, it really wouldn't. The reason that Zyz, Xasha, and Xecks take 49+ points in Assassination is because of the poison talents. They play on teams where poison cleansing is a huge problem to the control and effectiveness of a team.
Seikun is just good at the class. I've seen him in a few BGs, and the guy is just ridiculous.
Basically the moral of the story here is Learning/Adapting >>>>>>>> Imitating.
Really Theo, ShS is dominant now? I always thought it was a mix of 17/44, 0/31/30 and 1x/0/4x.
Now my rogue has to spend more money for respec... d'oh.
[link=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoEMoidVoZVrxoMh]This is what I would/will do, but I will really be missing imp sprint and dw dps./link]i
Err, looks like linky fails, but it still works. >_>;;
Edited, Feb 25th 2008 9:42pm by Danteter
Now my rogue has to spend more money for respec... d'oh.
[link=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ecoEMoidVoZVrxoMh]This is what I would/will do, but I will really be missing imp sprint and dw dps./link]i
Err, looks like linky fails, but it still works. >_>;;
Edited, Feb 25th 2008 9:42pm by Danteter
Danteter wrote:
Really Theo, ShS is dominant now?
It has been ever since 2.3.2.
http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/2/us/rogue/all/all/
47% of rogues over 2200 rating are 20/0/41.
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