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#1 Feb 16 2008 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
I have some problems understanding SEAL OF LIGHT useing methods. Pls tell how it works. Maybe my english is awful thats why Icant understand that... When does that heals party members and how, who do I have to judge that ECT.

Any help would be useful. PLS help me out.

A beginner holy pala
#2 Feb 16 2008 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seal of Light and Judgment of Light are 2 different concepts. Seal of Light is a buff on yourself. Judgment of Light is a debuff on your enemy.

Seal of Light:
When you use Seal of Light it puts a buff on yourself for 30secs. Every time you melee-hit someone, you have a chance to heal yourself. This will only effect yourself an no one else.

Judgment of Light:
When you have Seal of Light on yourself(the buff), you can use your Judge ability to apply a debuff to your target enemy. When your enemy has the debuff on them; every time someone hits the target with melee hits they have a chance to heal themselves. Once you Judge someone with SoL/JoL you will lose the Seal of Light buff on yourself. You can use Seal of Light again to put it back on yourself or select another Seal to use.

Hope this helped some.
#3REDACTED, Posted: Feb 16 2008 at 9:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nah, forget seal of light, it's useless, specially if you're a holydin.
#4 Feb 17 2008 at 1:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been a 70 pally for about 9 months and still don't understand judgements I guess. Healing I'll judge light and occasionally melee when I can to keep it refreshed (something to do I guess once instances become routine). My question is, are they only beneficial to melee classes. A post above stated so, just would like to hear more evidence one way or the other. So, JoW does nothing for casters? Do different Judgements behave differently regarding this?

On this topic.. We never have a ret pally in 25 mans, and I've always thought it'd be a great buff to have 3-4 judgements on bosses. I have been told that ret pallies refresh the entire raids judgements, were pallies from 5 different parties dropping one. Is this true?
#5 Feb 17 2008 at 1:26 AM Rating: Default
Yes that's true, Crusader Strike refreshes ALL Judgments on the enemy
#6 Feb 17 2008 at 2:52 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for help. Now I can level up and become a good healer.

THX 4 any suggestion, especially for that very long one.
#7 Feb 17 2008 at 3:45 AM Rating: Good
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Judging Seal of Light on a low-level enemy fighting an NPC is fun. Each time the NPC hits the enemy player, it'll heal itself and since the level difference is so big, the NPC will be invincible because it'll get healed for more than the enemy player can deal in damage.

Nice post, TacticalRage. Sums it up perfectly.

I'm wondering, though, who receives the threat Judgement of Light does via healing? The player who heals himself or the Paladin? I'm guessing it works like Lifebloom, where the person who gets healed also gets the threat (because Judgement of Light counts as your own heal, regardless of who cast the debuff on the enemy).

But it would be nice to finally know.
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#8 Feb 18 2008 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
I'm wondering, though, who receives the threat Judgement of Light does via healing? The player who heals himself or the Paladin? I'm guessing it works like Lifebloom, where the person who gets healed also gets the threat (because Judgement of Light counts as your own heal, regardless of who cast the debuff on the enemy).

But it would be nice to finally know.


Friend and I were curious as well. It's the person who judged it. As my pally friend would get mana from the heals my JoL on the enemy gave him. Since we only get mana back from heals if they're from "outside sources" and we were the only ones beating on it; I can only assume it's the person who judges. As far as verifying on threat meters, didn't go that far. =\
#9 Feb 18 2008 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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When you say 'person who judged it', you mean the person who activates the judgement by hitting the debuffed target, right? Not the person who cast the judgement to begin with, the Paladin.
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#10 Feb 18 2008 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, I've forgotten the answer to this "who gets the threat" question....

But the simplest way to tell? Look at your combat log. Does it read "Your Judgement of Light heals you for" or "xxxx's Judgement of Light heals you for".

Whoever shows ownership in the combat log is always the person who gets the threat.
#11 Feb 19 2008 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
When you say 'person who judged it', you mean the person who activates the judgement by hitting the debuffed target, right? Not the person who cast the judgement to begin with, the Paladin.


No, I did mean the person who Judged the seal onto the target. This is one of the harder things I've seen explained on this site lol.
#12 Feb 19 2008 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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ZOMG we raid with a ret pally.

I would love to see light judged on Void Reaver. My rogue is sorely undergeared for TK content, but I know what I'm doing so I get to come along.

My 7400ish HP unbuffed (just a bit over 9k buffed) don't hold up well to pounding.

I would love to see one of our holy pallies run in and judge light on that big ******* so our ret pally can keep it up with CS.

Gonna have to recommend this to my raid leader tonight when I log on.
#13 Feb 20 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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TacticalRage wrote:
Mazra wrote:
When you say 'person who judged it', you mean the person who activates the judgement by hitting the debuffed target, right? Not the person who cast the judgement to begin with, the Paladin.


No, I did mean the person who Judged the seal onto the target. This is one of the harder things I've seen explained on this site lol.


So for every time Judgement of Light heals the tank, Rogue and whatnot pounding on the judged target, the Paladin who cast the judgement to begin with will get the threat?

Explains a lot.
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