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#1 Feb 16 2008 at 2:58 AM Rating: Decent
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http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Celest

Well heres my lovely main. Nice and updated.

Iam looking for the next best upgrades for my equipment. Ive searched around and found a few items that i might be interested in. Please recomend any others you know of that could be better. Ive only searched heroics and kara stuff [with a exception or 2] Mind you i made this list before i made my pre kara itemization list. Theres plenty of stuff i havent found out about.

Helm

Savage mask of the lynx lord
Cowl of defiance
Deathblow goggles
Note: iam going into engineering soon

Chest
Chestguard of the conniver

Wrist
Veteran leather bracers

Neck
traitors noose
bone chain necklace
worgen clow necklace
adamentium chain

pants
leggings of the unrepentant
Midnight legguards
mennu's scaled leggions
The last one i cant read cause of a stain, warsack legs? warsiak? damn..

rings
ring of shadow deeps
ring of a 1000 marks
averinns ring of slaying
Geronas signet ring

Boots
boots of the unjust
edgewalker boots

Shoulders
wastewalker??
Mantle of the unforgiven
Bladed shoulders of the merciless

back
deathshroud
drape of the dark reaver

waist
dune wind sash
epoch whispering cinch
girdle of treachery

So any here thats a viable option or you know better ones from sources i havent checked or havent checked well enough?
#2 Feb 16 2008 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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lots of kara gear in the list, but none of the BoJ items which your basically gifted by running kara.

trinket
Bloodlust Brooch

neck
brooch of deftness
choker of vial intent

head
mask of the deceiver

feet
nyn'jahs tabi boots


these of just some of the items you can get
#3 Feb 16 2008 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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The badge bracers are better than the ones you have as well.
#4 Feb 16 2008 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
Wrist - Master Assassin Wristwraps(badges)

Chest - Shadowskin Trollskin Curaiss(dragonhawk avatar in ZA)

Helm - T4 maybe?

Neck - Choker of Vile Intent

Legs - Midnight Legguards definately, or Skulker's Greaves if they drop

Rings - Thousand Marks/Kara Rep ring

Boots - Nyn'jah Tabi boots(badges)

Shoulders - Bladed shoulderpads of the merciless

Back - Drape of the Dark Reavers

Waist - Blade Angel's Money Belt(bear avatar in ZA) or Girdle of Treachery, or Belt of Deep Shadow if you can get someone to craft it for you...best belt until Belt of One-Hundred Deaths.
#5 Feb 16 2008 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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If you haven't already, check out www.shadowpanther.net. The Rogue gear list is pretty good at listing items by top dps. This should help you decide on a few things.
#6 Feb 16 2008 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Yep, iam using all resources. I checked out shadowpanther. I tried the armory as well.

I have quite a good list of items going, with alternatives to each.

Though i dont have many chest items on it the list. Outside of ZA what should i look for thats close to kara/heroics?
#7 Feb 16 2008 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
Tenjen wrote:
Yep, iam using all resources. I checked out shadowpanther. I tried the armory as well.

I have quite a good list of items going, with alternatives to each.

Though i dont have many chest items on it the list. Outside of ZA what should i look for thats close to kara/heroics?


Tbh, rogue chest itemization is probably the worst of the classes in the game. At 70, preKara, you have few choices.

Assassination Chestpiece - Honestly, I think it's a piece of crap. It's so near the chest that drops out of _regular_ Blood Furnace(a lvl 62 instance, wtf), but better than a green.

Wastewalker Chestpiece - Not bad, especially if you have another piece for the 2pc. bonus. But a kind of a pita to get.

Chestgaurd of the Conniver(not PreKara) - The best until you can grab the chest out of SSC(Bloodsea Brigand's Vest) or the one out of ZA(off of Akil'zon, Shadowtooth Trollskin Cuirass).

Primalstrike Vest(Elemental LW only) - Not bad if you're a LW, have the other 2 pcs., and don't have the ZA chest.


Edit: Actually, I completely forgot about the season 3 chestpiece, which is better than the chest that drops out of Kara if you gem it correctly.

Edited, Feb 16th 2008 2:16pm by Salwrathis
#8 Feb 18 2008 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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O hey, i just got a lucky drop for midnight legguards.

What gems do you think i should throw on?
#9 Feb 18 2008 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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What gems do you think i should throw on?


+hit
#10 Feb 18 2008 at 1:24 PM Rating: Good
Tenjen wrote:
O hey, i just got a lucky drop for midnight legguards.

What gems do you think i should throw on?


2 - Glinting Noble Topaz(red sockets)
1 - Shifting Nightseye(blue socket)


Edit for clarity

Edited, Feb 18th 2008 3:25pm by Salwrathis
#11 Feb 19 2008 at 1:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Didnt want to waste space by making another topic about this.

Note: iam changing to combat once i get my latro's. Which is soon. [shut up! its dropping next time i tell you!]

What enchant do you think i should be throwing on my cloak. theres the usual +12 agility. But then thers the subtlety one with 2% less threat.

Now the thing is that 2% will open up quite a bit of damage for me. We lose quite a bit of dps trying to avoid hitting the aggro cieling, this lets me fit in 2% worth of threat in damage. Which is more than 12ag's 12ap and % of crit. This means 2% before i hit vanish to wipe my table and 2% more to help me go all out after without worrying.

Then theres nethercleft and nethercobra. Nether cobra sounds like is quite a bit of dps. But if i use it i lose out on 40 stamina. Which will leave me with ~7000 life for now. I feel irksome being 7000 life unbuffed.

Now i have vindicators brand and ive mentioned latro's. Should i throw mongoose on them? or just leave them be? maybe a less 'spensive Enchant like greater striking or agility [+20]

my plans for other items will be like

Head is the glyph of fero, aldor vengeance for shouldersr, Chest is exceptional stats [alternative being 150 health], Wrist is 24ap [alts being 4 stats and 12 stam], Feet iam thinking dexterity but surefooted seems better [5%snare resist and +10 hit] [alts are fortitude for 12 stam]

Gloves will be +26ap [assault] but i heard of a haste enchant, how good is that? and theres superior agi +15 [kings?]

Edited, Feb 19th 2008 9:33am by Tenjen
#12 Feb 19 2008 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
Tenjen wrote:
Didnt want to waste space by making another topic about this.

Note: iam changing to combat once i get my latro's. Which is soon. [shut up! its dropping next time i tell you!]

What enchant do you think i should be throwing on my cloak. theres the usual +12 agility. But then thers the subtlety one with 2% less threat.

Now the thing is that 2% will open up quite a bit of damage for me. We lose quite a bit of dps trying to avoid hitting the aggro cieling, this lets me fit in 2% worth of threat in damage. Which is more than 12ag's 12ap and % of crit. This means 2% before i hit vanish to wipe my table and 2% more to help me go all out after without worrying.


Tell your tanks to stop sucking ^^ . In all seriousness though, there's only one enchant you should be putting on your cloak(with the exception of Mother fight), and that's 12 agi.

Tenjen wrote:
Then theres nethercleft and nethercobra. Nether cobra sounds like is quite a bit of dps. But if i use it i lose out on 40 stamina. Which will leave me with ~7000 life for now. I feel irksome being 7000 life unbuffed.


As long as you have 9k+ buffed for 10mans, and 10k+ buffed for 25's, you're fine. I'd still say go with the nethercobra.

Tenjen wrote:
Now i have vindicators brand and ive mentioned latro's. Should i throw mongoose on them? or just leave them be? maybe a less 'spensive Enchant like greater striking or agility [+20]


I'd put mongoose on you Vindicator's, since sword drops are horrendous(unless you're planning to get a PvP weapon, then I'd hold on). As far as Latro's, put fiery or 20agi.

Tenjen wrote:
my plans for other items will be like

Head is the glyph of fero, aldor vengeance for shouldersr, Chest is exceptional stats [alternative being 150 health], Wrist is 24ap [alts being 4 stats and 12 stam], Feet iam thinking dexterity but surefooted seems better [5%snare resist and +10 hit] [alts are fortitude for 12 stam]


There's only 2 enchants you should ever have on your boots for PvE, 12agi or Cat's Swiftness. On any pair of boots on par w/ Nynjah Tabi boots or higher, go with Cat's Swiftness.

Tenjen wrote:
Gloves will be +26ap [assault] but i heard of a haste enchant, how good is that? and theres superior agi +15 [kings?]



Edited, Feb 19th 2008 9:33am by Tenjen


15agi

Edit: Breaking all that text up is a pita. lol

Edited, Feb 19th 2008 2:18pm by Salwrathis
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