I have 375 Herbalism and 358 Alchemy(working on it)...but from some i've heard the high level tailoring sets (Frozen Shadoweave, Spellfire, e.t.c) are really good...however, my friend said I shouldn't because there are other, much better sets that I could get, and that it's not worth it. Not that I don't trust him, but he's a lock, so he might not know what he's talking about; I don't think he knows exactly what a mage needs gear-wise.
My question is, is it worth it to switch one of my skills for it? I'm only level 66 atm. I love both of my skills though, so it's a hard decision. I don't know anything about high level armor sets (this is my first high level character) and if there's anything else you think I should get (instead of going through the trouble of leveling the skill, then spending a fortune to get the mats for the gear), what is it? (Frost Mage btw)
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 3:58pm by IXInfinity
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Should I switch to Tailoring?Follow
didn't read post.. just title.
if your a mage
YES!!!!!
if your a mage
YES!!!!!
it is a huge investment of gold & time, but you will use the gear for a long time.
it's worth it, if you can get by with just 1 productive profession (herb or alch).
it's worth it, if you can get by with just 1 productive profession (herb or alch).
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I think you would benefit from switching.
I just switched to tailoring (was 375 skinning, 355 leatherworking, dropped LW) and it only took me about 200g to get to 285 tailoring. Though, I understand a lot of the work and money is still ahead of me. I know the price of power leveling a profession is dependent on server (mine is Draka) but it will be worth it when you craft your set. If you have four levels (66-70) to farm cloth it will probably cost you less.
I chose to start farming for my FSW set because I like my frost. From what I understand the FSW set is very viable in early raiding. The Spellfire is equally if not more viable than the FSW for raiding. There are other sets you can get, but as I understand it, not until the more advanced levels of raiding. I envision my FSW set as a bridge from my current crappy greens to being "beginning raid viable". I'll pick up more advanced sets as progress raiding. Also check out the spellstrike set as a companion to your set of choice.
BTW if you decide to do FSW, check out Oshu'gun in Nagrand. The voidspawns drop the mote of shadow as well as Netherweave cloth at a pretty good clip. Easy kills as well.
good luck!
Arthanus
I just switched to tailoring (was 375 skinning, 355 leatherworking, dropped LW) and it only took me about 200g to get to 285 tailoring. Though, I understand a lot of the work and money is still ahead of me. I know the price of power leveling a profession is dependent on server (mine is Draka) but it will be worth it when you craft your set. If you have four levels (66-70) to farm cloth it will probably cost you less.
I chose to start farming for my FSW set because I like my frost. From what I understand the FSW set is very viable in early raiding. The Spellfire is equally if not more viable than the FSW for raiding. There are other sets you can get, but as I understand it, not until the more advanced levels of raiding. I envision my FSW set as a bridge from my current crappy greens to being "beginning raid viable". I'll pick up more advanced sets as progress raiding. Also check out the spellstrike set as a companion to your set of choice.
BTW if you decide to do FSW, check out Oshu'gun in Nagrand. The voidspawns drop the mote of shadow as well as Netherweave cloth at a pretty good clip. Easy kills as well.
good luck!
Arthanus
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Hmm, and which should I drop? I love both equally and have put much work into both of them..but I think if I had to choose, i'd rather drop Herbalism. I don't know if it's true, but a friend tells me that his friend can make from 500g-1kg a day (if she has the mats) from being an Elixir master Alchemist. Though I also hate to drop Herbalism for alot of other things... The reason I would rather choose to have Alchemy is because of all the benefits of potions and transmutes etc...but without Herbalism..I'd have to buy my own mats and have several other problems...
Now, how much would I rely on the set(s) though? I do alot of instancing as I level, and therefore I have a lot of blues from lv 60-66. How soon might I replace it? I don't want to get 375 Tailoring, then make the set, then get 70 raid a few times and find something better soon after..
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 7:17pm by IXInfinity
Now, how much would I rely on the set(s) though? I do alot of instancing as I level, and therefore I have a lot of blues from lv 60-66. How soon might I replace it? I don't want to get 375 Tailoring, then make the set, then get 70 raid a few times and find something better soon after..
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 7:17pm by IXInfinity
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You should drop Alchemy!! Because Herb is more of a money maker and can stand alone
IXInfinity wrote:
It'd also be nice if someone could explain a few things to me, though this is kind of getting off-topic, but I don't know too much about late-game stuff. What's the difference between different Tiers of certain armor sets, and why are they called T1, T4, T6 etc...or the Arena gear. (If there's somewhere I can go to that can explain this to a newb, please tell me lol)
I would start here
I think I would keep both and wait for a real need for better gear, better gear you can't buy and no better gear from the x-pac. All Professions are good when max'ed out. Work yours and earn gold to buy gear. Think about this, it might take 500-1k gold to level tailoring to 375 then how much to make the set you want? In the mean time you will earn more gold than that and can buy all the gear you want. There is also PvP gear to try, and BoE's to get you into Kara.
alcattle wrote:
I think I would keep both and wait for a real need for better gear, better gear you can't buy and no better gear from the x-pac. All Professions are good when max'ed out. Work yours and earn gold to buy gear. Think about this, it might take 500-1k gold to level tailoring to 375 then how much to make the set you want? In the mean time you will earn more gold than that and can buy all the gear you want. There is also PvP gear to try, and BoE's to get you into Kara.
the difference is that after spending the money on these pieces they will last you way past kara, past gruuls, past mag, and through most of the tier-5 instances.
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Alright, thanks all who have posted! Bout to start getting all the cloth I need to level it. Can't wait to get it to 375! =D
Being level 66 it will be good to start making the special cloth asap. Spellcloth or what ever way you go can be made 2x every 4 days. 26 are needed for the 3 pieces of the Spellfire set. So it would take 52 days to create all the cloth you needed. You can speed that up by making the other 2 cloths (Primal Mooncloth, Shadowcloth) and trading them to other tailors for spellcloth.
Keep Herbs and either sell them or have a guildie make all you pots with your won mats.
Edited, Feb 18th 2008 11:06am by Scolariman
Keep Herbs and either sell them or have a guildie make all you pots with your won mats.
Edited, Feb 18th 2008 11:06am by Scolariman
TBH I haven't found tailoring so nice for a mage, but then again I am more of a PvP guy, and there's no such thing as lack of resilience that kills you in PvP.
So it actually boils down to what you want to do in endgame. If you want to PvP - stay with what you got. If you want to PvE - tailoring might be a good idea.
Just a little question I've got: Those of you who swear to tailoring, when you get you crafted gear replaced (which you do at some point), what do you use your tradeskill for after that? spamming in trade channel "WTC >X item< your mats + gold, my nether"? because if that's all you can do afterwards, I would suggest finding a better proff. ;)
So it actually boils down to what you want to do in endgame. If you want to PvP - stay with what you got. If you want to PvE - tailoring might be a good idea.
Just a little question I've got: Those of you who swear to tailoring, when you get you crafted gear replaced (which you do at some point), what do you use your tradeskill for after that? spamming in trade channel "WTC >X item< your mats + gold, my nether"? because if that's all you can do afterwards, I would suggest finding a better proff. ;)
krqllebqlle wrote:
TBH I haven't found tailoring so nice for a mage, but then again I am more of a PvP guy, and there's no such thing as lack of resilience that kills you in PvP.
So it actually boils down to what you want to do in endgame. If you want to PvP - stay with what you got. If you want to PvE - tailoring might be a good idea.
Just a little question I've got: Those of you who swear to tailoring, when you get you crafted gear replaced (which you do at some point), what do you use your tradeskill for after that? spamming in trade channel "WTC >X item< your mats + gold, my nether"? because if that's all you can do afterwards, I would suggest finding a better proff. ;)
So it actually boils down to what you want to do in endgame. If you want to PvP - stay with what you got. If you want to PvE - tailoring might be a good idea.
Just a little question I've got: Those of you who swear to tailoring, when you get you crafted gear replaced (which you do at some point), what do you use your tradeskill for after that? spamming in trade channel "WTC >X item< your mats + gold, my nether"? because if that's all you can do afterwards, I would suggest finding a better proff. ;)
The difference is (Depending on the speed and progression if your guild) that the tailored sets will last you through about 4 or 5 raid instances worth, which for most guilds could be upwards of 6 months. And after you are done with that, you can still craft the specialty cloth and sell it on the AH, I am always making bags for my new alts, making the thread for the new pants that I get, and in 2.4 there will be a new (at least) chest piece that is amazing.
I'm a mage without tailoring. *gasp
I'm doubting my own existence.
I'm doubting my own existence.
Amaiya wrote:
I'm a mage without tailoring. *gasp
I'm doubting my own existence.
I'm doubting my own existence.
I too am a mage without tailoring. Until recently, I had never met a mage in(or out of) a tailored set that could match my damage.
Edit: Typo.
Edited, Feb 19th 2008 3:09am by Poldaran
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Amaiya wrote:
I'm a mage without tailoring. *gasp
I'm doubting my own existence.
I'm doubting my own existence.
I too am a mage without tailoring. Until recently, I had never met a mage in(or out of) a tailored set that could match my damage.
Edit: Typo.
Edited, Feb 19th 2008 3:09am by Poldaran
the thing is that they are either bad or you are more skilled/knowledgeable (more than likely). One benefit for them is that they had to spend less time farming for 3 pieces that they can walk right into a raid with.
Anobix wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Amaiya wrote:
I'm a mage without tailoring. *gasp
I'm doubting my own existence.
I'm doubting my own existence.
I too am a mage without tailoring. Until recently, I had never met a mage in(or out of) a tailored set that could match my damage.
Edit: Typo.
Edited, Feb 19th 2008 3:09am by Poldaran
the thing is that they are either bad or you are more skilled/knowledgeable (more than likely). One benefit for them is that they had to spend less time farming for 5 pieces that they can walk right into a raid with.
Fixt for spellstrike.
One at least was quite good. The rest I'm gonna take the fifth on as I don't wanna hurt their feelings. I'm just gonna say it's because I'm a god among mages and all of you should bow to me.
Scholar
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Leveling JC and Enchanting was just to damn hard that I refuse to switch. :P Luckilly I do more pvp these days.
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The rest I'm gonna take the fifth on as I don't wanna hurt their feelings. I'm just gonna say it's because I'm a god among mages and all of you should bow to me.
Tangent blows to Pol... wait... I misread that, didn't I?
To the OP... I was alch/herb for a very long time and finally changed to tailoring and saw an instant increase in my already good damage. I was already leading our mages, but when I got the same gear they had, I destroyed them. Knowing your class, ftw.
Edited, Feb 20th 2008 7:56am by ktangent
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Anobix wrote:
The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Amaiya wrote:
I'm a mage without tailoring. *gasp
I'm doubting my own existence.
I'm doubting my own existence.
I too am a mage without tailoring. Until recently, I had never met a mage in(or out of) a tailored set that could match my damage.
Edit: Typo.
Edited, Feb 19th 2008 3:09am by Poldaran
the thing is that they are either bad or you are more skilled/knowledgeable (more than likely). One benefit for them is that they had to spend less time farming for 5 pieces that they can walk right into a raid with.
Fixt for spellstrike.
One at least was quite good. The rest I'm gonna take the fifth on as I don't wanna hurt their feelings. I'm just gonna say it's because I'm a god among mages and all of you should bow to me.
Well spellstrike (BoE) doesn't require tailoring though, although it does to get the set bonus (from what I understand).
Anobix wrote:
Well spellstrike (BoE) doesn't require tailoring though, although it does to get the set bonus (from what I understand).
True enough, but the set bonus is what puts it in a class by itself.
Also, they might also find a Boots of Blasting pattern and a something or other shoulders pattern from BT on the AH.
Edited, Feb 20th 2008 9:52am by Poldaran
All I know is don't start leveling tailoring until you have the mats for it. I followed one of the 1 to 375 guides - which was like 2800 Netherweave Cloth. I remember a guy who had 375 mining and herbalism and dropped herbalism to level up blacksmithing. All of a sudden he says "I did it, I unlearned herbalism and have started leveling blacksmithing". He spent like 3 weeks getting to the 350 he needed to use some set. /doh
To piggyback off this thread, I just hit 70 on my mage around a week ago, and I'm gonna drop skinning and level tailoring this weekend. I have tons of netherweave and runecloth saved up, but not much else. I'd rather farm for the low level stuff than buy it, so where is the best place to farm for wool, silk, and mageweave, all which can run around 1g a stack at the ah on my server. The linen i'll prob just buy since it is so cheap and i'll prob get to the wool and silk level stuff pretty cheaply.
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