I have speccd this hunter MM since lvl 10 and i enjoy the large and often crits and the pet i have actually does quite well holding aggro (Goreclaw from Dustwallow) but at my current lvl im curious of how different BM would be and the pros and cons of switching now. thank you for any help.
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 4:43pm by JacaBa
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Pros: Things would be much easier and faster.
Cons: Can't really think of any.
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 4:50pm by Ieatrocks
Cons: Can't really think of any.
Edited, Feb 15th 2008 4:50pm by Ieatrocks
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listen to ieatsrock. my first character was a hunter, had no clue what i was doing was mm/sv spec till lvl 40. switched to bm and nealy kicked myself for not doing to sooner.
In my opinion mm requires more skill to level with.
while bm is pretty much a retards guide to fast leveling.
and i have leveled hunters both ways so i do know for a fact that bm is easier for leveling.
But one thing that the other specs have that bm is not strong in is the fact that every other class teaches you skills more pertanant to instancing at a high level.
mm teaches you how to use an effective shot rotation and gives you a great shot experience.
sv teaches you to trap well
bm teaches you to rely on your pet
only two of these is good for learning how to do high level instances.
of course this is just my opinion and instantly someone will come and counter act me and rate me down. happens every time.
however i do feel that bm is very usefull in leveling and in 25 man raids.
but most the population of wow that is at level 70 is at the whole normal 5 man instance stage. so bm is a weaker spec in those situations
while bm is pretty much a retards guide to fast leveling.
and i have leveled hunters both ways so i do know for a fact that bm is easier for leveling.
But one thing that the other specs have that bm is not strong in is the fact that every other class teaches you skills more pertanant to instancing at a high level.
mm teaches you how to use an effective shot rotation and gives you a great shot experience.
sv teaches you to trap well
bm teaches you to rely on your pet
only two of these is good for learning how to do high level instances.
of course this is just my opinion and instantly someone will come and counter act me and rate me down. happens every time.
however i do feel that bm is very usefull in leveling and in 25 man raids.
but most the population of wow that is at level 70 is at the whole normal 5 man instance stage. so bm is a weaker spec in those situations
To be honest, you're looking at it the wrong way. Survival teaches you to be lazy and rely on your trap talents, not how to trap better; learning how to properly trap even without talents spent in it means that you'll be much, much better at it when/if you do put talent points into it.
You could probably coast to level 70 as 0/0/0 spec, but there's no reason to. Cut yourself a break and go BM, but make sure you try and learn all the essential hunter tools as you level up.
You could probably coast to level 70 as 0/0/0 spec, but there's no reason to. Cut yourself a break and go BM, but make sure you try and learn all the essential hunter tools as you level up.
Slammerofkooter wrote:
mm teaches you how to use an effective shot rotation and gives you a great shot experience.
sv teaches you to trap well
bm teaches you to rely on your pet
Spec doesn't teach you anything. You can learn shot rotations as a BM, you can trap as a MM and all specs rely on their pets.
My opinion on it was that MM was fun while I was specc'ed into it, but once I decided to go BM, I didn't regret it.
BM is great for leveling because of the increased survivability of your pet, and ultimately, you. It's also great for instances because of the increased attack speed, and buffs to your pet. The only problem with it is that you have to learn how to take care of your pet or else you'll lose out on the talents that require you to have a pet out. But honestly, taking care of your pet is just part of being a hunter.
The differences in leveling are grossly apparent between SV, MM and BM. BM is by far the easiest to grind and solo quest with, followed by MM and then SV.
at lvl 70 doing Heroic 5-mans, SV with trap talents is best because you have les members to rely on and any CC help can mean the difference between a quick run and not finishing and having a high repair bill.
People will say what they wanna say, there are die hard fans of every spec, and the die hard fans of MM and SV will bash BM as being easy mode leveling.... but thats not really a false statement, BM IS extremely easy to lvl with but it is still dependent on the skill of the Hunter to maximize it's benefits.
Do what you want, but if you plan to try and level quickly or solo a lot, BM is the better choice. Beside if DPS is what you want to do in end game, learning the ins and outs of the best DPS build (for Hunters at least) in the game right now is not a bad idea.
at lvl 70 doing Heroic 5-mans, SV with trap talents is best because you have les members to rely on and any CC help can mean the difference between a quick run and not finishing and having a high repair bill.
People will say what they wanna say, there are die hard fans of every spec, and the die hard fans of MM and SV will bash BM as being easy mode leveling.... but thats not really a false statement, BM IS extremely easy to lvl with but it is still dependent on the skill of the Hunter to maximize it's benefits.
Do what you want, but if you plan to try and level quickly or solo a lot, BM is the better choice. Beside if DPS is what you want to do in end game, learning the ins and outs of the best DPS build (for Hunters at least) in the game right now is not a bad idea.
I started the game a couple months after it came out. Whether you remember it or not, pre-bc, BM was highly laughable. It was ok for leveling but MM or SV was where it was for raiding. I quit shortly before BC came out and started a new character on a new server with my RL friends a few months ago. Another hunter as, IMO, always have been the best dps in raids.
It took me awhile to come around seeing how I used to make fun of BM hunters pre-bc but I switched to BM at around 50 and I have been it ever since. Unless you PvP alot, ***** MM. Also, unless you're in top raiding gear with TONS of agility, ***** SV.
BM is where its at for best DPS. When you hit 70, grab a few heroic blues with a couple S1 arena gear, you'll be in the top 2 of Kara every night as BM. It basically comes down to scatter shot and AP with MM or 10% dmg and 20% attack speed with BM. Give me attack speed any day of the week.
Edited, Feb 16th 2008 6:43pm by Kalvatar
It took me awhile to come around seeing how I used to make fun of BM hunters pre-bc but I switched to BM at around 50 and I have been it ever since. Unless you PvP alot, ***** MM. Also, unless you're in top raiding gear with TONS of agility, ***** SV.
BM is where its at for best DPS. When you hit 70, grab a few heroic blues with a couple S1 arena gear, you'll be in the top 2 of Kara every night as BM. It basically comes down to scatter shot and AP with MM or 10% dmg and 20% attack speed with BM. Give me attack speed any day of the week.
Edited, Feb 16th 2008 6:43pm by Kalvatar
Kalvatar wrote:
Unless you PvP alot, ***** MM. Also, unless you're in top raiding gear with TONS of agility, ***** SV.
I'm not even fully epicced out and i give my raid (in 25 mans) ~220AP.
With a few tanks, rogues and other hunters that really makes a difference.
As long as you learn to play the CLASS (HUNTER) the SPEC is mostly irrelevant. Each spec has its advantages and limitations, both levelling and endgame.
Pick the spec that best fits your player skills. No spec is 'useless' in levelling or endgame. Choose which plays best for you. Try all 3, it's cheap enough.
Pick the spec that best fits your player skills. No spec is 'useless' in levelling or endgame. Choose which plays best for you. Try all 3, it's cheap enough.
Katchii wrote:
The differences in leveling are grossly apparent between SV, MM and BM. BM is by far the easiest to grind and solo quest with, followed by MM and then SV.
at lvl 70 doing Heroic 5-mans, SV with trap talents is best because you have les members to rely on and any CC help can mean the difference between a quick run and not finishing and having a high repair bill.
People will say what they wanna say, there are die hard fans of every spec, and the die hard fans of MM and SV will bash BM as being easy mode leveling.... but thats not really a false statement, BM IS extremely easy to lvl with but it is still dependent on the skill of the Hunter to maximize it's benefits.
Do what you want, but if you plan to try and level quickly or solo a lot, BM is the better choice. Beside if DPS is what you want to do in end game, learning the ins and outs of the best DPS build (for Hunters at least) in the game right now is not a bad idea.
at lvl 70 doing Heroic 5-mans, SV with trap talents is best because you have les members to rely on and any CC help can mean the difference between a quick run and not finishing and having a high repair bill.
People will say what they wanna say, there are die hard fans of every spec, and the die hard fans of MM and SV will bash BM as being easy mode leveling.... but thats not really a false statement, BM IS extremely easy to lvl with but it is still dependent on the skill of the Hunter to maximize it's benefits.
Do what you want, but if you plan to try and level quickly or solo a lot, BM is the better choice. Beside if DPS is what you want to do in end game, learning the ins and outs of the best DPS build (for Hunters at least) in the game right now is not a bad idea.
GRRR
Katchii you don't have to be SV spec to do well in heroics, never had a mob get loose on me yet!
Favorite thing to do in Heroic SP is Trap one of the Bogrock thingys and kite the other around, taking 2 out of the equasion for awhile, and I'm MM spec :D
I never said it was impossible to do as a different spec than SV, it's just that SV is "better" at it because they have less chance of resist and their traps last longer. I just hate knowing that my trap being resisted was the cause of a wipe/ someone dying.
Granted of the 1000 times i've laid my trap for CC in a dungeon it's been completely resisted like 10-20 times, but those times were in Kara and Heroic SH and SV and a lot of people died every time it happened (complete resist first trap and then partial resist second trap).
I can do it, I know how, and I'm good at it, Bm and MM can be good at it, but an SV Hunter specced for it would be "better" for the simple reason of better trap reliability.
Granted of the 1000 times i've laid my trap for CC in a dungeon it's been completely resisted like 10-20 times, but those times were in Kara and Heroic SH and SV and a lot of people died every time it happened (complete resist first trap and then partial resist second trap).
I can do it, I know how, and I'm good at it, Bm and MM can be good at it, but an SV Hunter specced for it would be "better" for the simple reason of better trap reliability.
Katchii wrote:
I never said it was impossible to do as a different spec than SV, it's just that SV is "better" at it because they have less chance of resist and their traps last longer. I just hate knowing that my trap being resisted was the cause of a wipe/ someone dying.
Granted of the 1000 times i've laid my trap for CC in a dungeon it's been completely resisted like 10-20 times, but those times were in Kara and Heroic SH and SV and a lot of people died every time it happened (complete resist first trap and then partial resist second trap).
I can do it, I know how, and I'm good at it, Bm and MM can be good at it, but an SV Hunter specced for it would be "better" for the simple reason of better trap reliability.
Granted of the 1000 times i've laid my trap for CC in a dungeon it's been completely resisted like 10-20 times, but those times were in Kara and Heroic SH and SV and a lot of people died every time it happened (complete resist first trap and then partial resist second trap).
I can do it, I know how, and I'm good at it, Bm and MM can be good at it, but an SV Hunter specced for it would be "better" for the simple reason of better trap reliability.
or just spec like my hunter and then you get all the handy trap talents plus the power of MM :D
or just dont spec MM if you´re raiding cause it sucks?
Aethien wrote:
or just dont spec MM if you´re raiding cause it sucks?
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I have nothing. I guess I am just that skilled and actually know wtf I am doing
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