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#1 Feb 14 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
Quick clarification question on weapon speeds. I currently use Drakefist hammer with S1 OH mace. I got to lookin at the kara loot tables and saw that Netherspite drops a nice sword with a 2.70 weapon speed, that isnt unique. My question is, would using 2 of these (should I even get them) hurt my damage having 2 slow weapons? Why is a fast OH so much more desired? Any help is appreciated.
#2 Feb 14 2008 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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faster OH = more poison procs. Also since you don't have any instant attacks for OH (shiv doesnt really matter to your dps), how hard your OH hits doesnt matter.

Dont know where the math came from, but I think 0.1 speed = 10 dps (weapon poisoned).
#3 Feb 14 2008 at 1:38 PM Rating: Default
I don't like fast weapons as much because they miss more than slower ones. That's just me though.
#4 Feb 14 2008 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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I don't like fast weapons as much because they miss more than slower ones. That's just me though.

LOL.

You're dumb.

Fast OH is there for poison procs, sure, but it's really there for Combat Potency.
#5 Feb 14 2008 at 1:44 PM Rating: Good
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BlackRevolution wrote:
I don't like fast weapons as much because they miss more than slower ones.

That's probably the single most retarded statement I've ever seen on these forums. Of course a fast weapon will miss more, but the rate at which it misses will be the same (on average) as a slow weapon. In other words, it misses more because it swings more. Anybody with even the loosest grasp of rogue mechanics should understand that.

A fast offhand is essential to good DPS, especially using a PvE combat spec. Not only does it increase your rate of poison procs, as stated above, but it also increases your returns from Combat Potency. More energy is more instant attacks, and that's more damage, more CPs, more efficient cycles, and less SnD downtime.
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#6 Feb 14 2008 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
I have read a lot new and/or dumb Rogues arguing weapon speeds for different specs, but that one has to take the cake.
#7 Feb 14 2008 at 1:57 PM Rating: Decent
Sigged...

Edit: I fail at quoting though... :(

Edited, Feb 14th 2008 2:58pm by tehghostlyone
#8 Feb 14 2008 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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EdgeofReason wrote:
Quick clarification question on weapon speeds. I currently use Drakefist hammer with S1 OH mace. I got to lookin at the kara loot tables and saw that Netherspite drops a nice sword with a 2.70 weapon speed, that isnt unique. My question is, would using 2 of these (should I even get them) hurt my damage having 2 slow weapons? Why is a fast OH so much more desired? Any help is appreciated.


How do you get to 70 and not know these things?

BlackRevolution wrote:
I don't like fast weapons as much because they miss more than slower ones. That's just me though.


You have got to be kidding...Are you exceptionally stupid or something? They have the same miss % but faster weapons hit more often so you see more misses but the % of missed hits between a slow wep and a fast wep is the same.
#9 Feb 14 2008 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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nice fight club sig.
#10 Feb 15 2008 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
Well, I only have a level 27 rogue right now. He is leveling combat swords because I found that to be the best spec to level as. I tried DW'ing daggers but they seemed to miss a lot more than the swords because of their speed.
I guess I was a little lost when I read what the OP had to say. I was saying that I liked swords over daggers or maces in general. I also knew about the poison proc'ing from the faster OH weapon. I was thinking very clearly. Sorry for the misunderstanding.


When I go back and read what I said... you all have a right to make fun of me.
#11 Feb 15 2008 at 8:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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BlackRevolution wrote:
When I go back and read what I said... you all have a right to make fun of me.

Even if we didn't have a right to do so, we'd do it anyways. We're sadistic like that.
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#12 Feb 15 2008 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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BlackRevolution wrote:
When I go back and read what I said... you all have a right to make fun of me.

Even if we didn't have a right to do so, we'd do it anyways. We're sadistic like that.


Why are we whispering in small little quotes?
#13 Feb 15 2008 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
Whispering is fun!
#14 Feb 15 2008 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
someone should sticky one of these speed posts
#15 Feb 15 2008 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Faster offhands will also lead to more sword spec procs.
#16 Feb 15 2008 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
I know, but I'm only level 27. So I don't have that many.
#17 Feb 15 2008 at 8:47 AM Rating: Excellent
Plus once you get more +hit, you'll land more of those hits
#18 Feb 15 2008 at 8:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Faster (especially 1.30) offhands also make you look funny when you have S&D, Bladeflurry, Abacus of Violent odds & Heroism buff up at once.

That is a lot of left hand poking.
#19 Feb 15 2008 at 9:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Faster (especially 1.30) offhands also make you look funny when you have S&D, Bladeflurry, Abacus of Violent odds & Heroism buff up at once.

That is a lot of left hand poking.


Must look crazy
#20 Feb 15 2008 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Night elves are the best for this as they stand in a fixed stance & jab repeatedly as if poking with a stick.

More reasons to laugh at them for their sillyness. This list for an easy 1.30 weapon to try out with :P
#21 Feb 15 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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HAI GUYZ WUTS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?
#22 Feb 15 2008 at 10:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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HAI GUYZ WUTS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?


AHHHHHH!!!!
#23 Feb 15 2008 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
HAI GUYZ WUTS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?


C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!
#24 Feb 20 2008 at 1:23 AM Rating: Excellent
Curses.

Edited, Feb 20th 2008 1:23am by SeraphimDragon
#25 Feb 20 2008 at 2:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Please almighty God-like Admins, one of you please sticky a thread about weapon speed. It would at least reduce the idiotic posts on this forum by 25%(*is being optimistic about that number*).
#26 Feb 20 2008 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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GodOfMoo wrote:
Please almighty God-like Admins, one of you please sticky a thread about weapon speed. It would at least reduce the idiotic posts on this forum by 25%(*is being optimistic about that number*).

It's called the rogue class guide by Nooble.
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