Axehilt wrote:
You're retarded.
If you want to argue that these numbers are useless because they don't work against players with high resilience, fine. But don't say it can't be done or it has a crazy low chance against poorly geared players, because that's not true.
The reason you're retarded is you assume everything has to proc to kill my mage. It doesn't. My mage isn't horribly geared, he's just not amazingly geared for PVP. A sizable portion of BG PVPers are geared the same way!
I'm retarded because I offer up a point and hard numbers to back it up? And you rated me down for that? Wow. That'll teach me to be the voice of reason and not give people false hope from now on.
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After crunching numbers my lightning bolts crit for 3.1k and have a 34.x% chance to crit against my mage (including resilience reductions, trinket, bloodfury, TOW, and wrath)
(the two assumptions were (a) 5% dmg talent applies after +dmg and (b) WOWWiki's coefficient page is correct that we have 79.4% coefficient)
Here's something I don't understand: Why do you need to crunch numbers to know how much your LB will crit for? I would imagine if you've done any manner of PvP at all--and if you haven't, you shouldn't be giving advice on this--you should know what your LB's crit for on average.
Let me ask you this, and be honest: How many people have you personally two-shot with your Elemental Shaman? In BG's? In the arena?
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Basically I'd have a 13.6% chance of two-shotting my mage (.34*.4) because I only need one crit and one LO proc (out of two LO proc chances) to kill him. If you save EM for the 2nd bolt the chance raises slightly to 14.0% because at that point you only need two *LO procs in a row to kill the mage (.2*.2=0.4% added to your existing chance)(*the first LO proc will crit from EM)
14% is a reasonable chance to say that you can two-shot someone in PVP.
.34 x .20 x 1.00 (EMLB) x .20 = .0136 or 1.36%.
Firing up EM before a CL or LB only guarantees that the CL or LB itself will proc. The resulting LO, should there be one, still has it's own chance to crit (or not).
And now you've brought trinkets into it... I guess we'll also have to assume the Mage's Ice Barrier isn't up (lawl) in addition to not having any PvP gear at all... The more you go on with this the more ridiculous it gets. Just because it's possible under a set of highly controlled, optimal variables doesn't give you the leeway to make blanket statements like, "Shaman can two-shot people!" Like I said... I could win the lottery tomorrow but it doesn't actually make me rich right now.