hey i am starting to lvl my rogue with my friend he is also rogue well i wanted to go dagger and he wants to go sword i just keep hearing that i just be too slow for him to lvl with because of the daggers and also would this be a good built if i do go daggers ^^
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053030000000000000000200000000000000000000005500531330021203501351
i read the faq and couldnt find if it would be good to go a dagger rogue while lvling with another rogue sorry if its been asked alot and thank you for the help ^^
Edited, Feb 12th 2008 3:58pm by scottyjames
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I can't really understand what you wrote, so I will give the shotgun answer.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
Can you put that in english please?
meet your new best friends: . , ' ; Shift
Moving on DrMayhem is correct, combat swords is easily the best pve spec and will allow you to lvl much easier then using any dagger. However that is just what's best on spreadsheets, I personally am lvling with a dagger sub build mostly because I enjoy seeing big yellow numbers but I regret the lost efficiancy occasionally.
Moving on DrMayhem is correct, combat swords is easily the best pve spec and will allow you to lvl much easier then using any dagger. However that is just what's best on spreadsheets, I personally am lvling with a dagger sub build mostly because I enjoy seeing big yellow numbers but I regret the lost efficiancy occasionally.
DrMayhem wrote:
I can't really understand what you wrote, so I will give the shotgun answer.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
I will also add that swords output more white damage than daggers, despite the daggers' fast speeds. So when you're waiting for your Energy to regain, the white damage will still do you some good.
Pinkbullet wrote:
DrMayhem wrote:
I can't really understand what you wrote, so I will give the shotgun answer.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Leveling is all about killing mobs quickly. Daggers take too long. Once you get to level 30, spec blade flurry, and you can kill 3 mobs at once easily.
Also, L2grammar.
I will also add that swords output more white damage than daggers, despite the daggers' fast speeds. So when you're waiting for your Energy to regain, the white damage will still do you some good.
Swords output the exact same white damage as daggers. The only difference is when you get into sword spec vs dagger spec, and the difference at that point is very minimal.
Couldn't the OP go daggers and let his combat swords buddy "tank" for him while he focuses on rear attacks (i.e. backstab)? With any luck he could stay behind his targets for most of the fights. Could the positioning factor offset the dps differences between the two rogue specs?
Rogues aren't my specialty...but some of the most fun I had with my rogue was back when I was daggers and teamed with a feral druid. We stood on either side of the mob and nailed him whenever he faced away. Poor mobs had no idea which way to look.
And then that druid went Moonkin....and I turned into some kind of wierd dodge/stun tank for his moonfire+starfire combos. :-(
Rogues aren't my specialty...but some of the most fun I had with my rogue was back when I was daggers and teamed with a feral druid. We stood on either side of the mob and nailed him whenever he faced away. Poor mobs had no idea which way to look.
And then that druid went Moonkin....and I turned into some kind of wierd dodge/stun tank for his moonfire+starfire combos. :-(
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You´re wrong Theophanny.
No, he's not.
The big difference lies in yellow damage.
The big difference lies in yellow damage.
Unless you specifically want a spec that uses dagger only moves (backstab/ambush/mutilate) You want the biggest damage per hit you can get (not biggest dps) because your main limiting factor is your energy regen rate, not your speed(on your abilities. DPS for similar level weapons is usually about the same so specific weapon doesn't matter save that some abilities are dagger only and combat specs use specific weapons). Since daggers are generally fast weapons, they will have lower per hit damage than a slow sword/mace/fistweapon.
I didn't see your spec, it came up blank for me :( You have to use the link at the bottom to save the talents, not the one in the navigator window.
I didn't see your spec, it came up blank for me :( You have to use the link at the bottom to save the talents, not the one in the navigator window.
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Speccing into combat, use a slow (2.6 or slower) MH sword and pound things with sinister strike = win.
Isn't this the secondary property of a high damage sword? Shouldn't this say use a higher max damage sword in your mainhand and oh btw it tends to be slower...?
Higher max damage w sinister strike = win?
just looking for clarity here
Yes, higher max damage is what you want. Using the "you want a slow weapon" line is outdated, retarded, and also outdated. "You want the sword with the biggest number" should replace it.
Look OP, as stated above, combat and swords will be the most efficient for leveling/downing mobs. But daggers work, and especially paired with another rogue, you guys would do fine. Hell I soloed almost all the way to the outlands, having grouped up very few times and only when necessary as a mostly sub (with some assas) dagger wielding rogue. It wasn't as efficient as it could have been, but I felt like I enjoyed it more. And still do in fact. But then I don't raid, yet at least.
Go with what sounds the most fun, and if you get a chance, try out some swords and different specs to compare if you would like. Ultimately, I think enjoyment is more important than having the max possible DPS, if that playstyle isn't enjoyable to you.
Many people respec for instances/raids so they can perform up to expectations, then go back to their "fun" spec (and daggers or maces etc.) for regular questing or PVPing. That can get expensive, but at lvl 70, it's pretty negligible.
Go with what sounds the most fun, and if you get a chance, try out some swords and different specs to compare if you would like. Ultimately, I think enjoyment is more important than having the max possible DPS, if that playstyle isn't enjoyable to you.
Many people respec for instances/raids so they can perform up to expectations, then go back to their "fun" spec (and daggers or maces etc.) for regular questing or PVPing. That can get expensive, but at lvl 70, it's pretty negligible.
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I didn't see your spec, it came up blank for me :( You have to use the link at the bottom to save the talents, not the one in the navigator window.
thanks i updated the first link ^^
scottyjames wrote:
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I didn't see your spec, it came up blank for me :( You have to use the link at the bottom to save the talents, not the one in the navigator window.
thanks i updated the first link ^^
Ok, quick lookover, I'd say loose heightened senses, lose improved SS, go with serrated blades and hemorrhage.
This is what people generally call a dagger sub. spec. I'd try to go a bit down farther on assassination and thin your sub spec so you can get Lethality and relentless strikes
I'd suggest something more along the lines of:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053031050000000000000000000000000000000000000500530330301213501351
But while I love subtlety, I only went sub. daggers for a short time, so if anyone else has more sub. dagger experience, go with them!
Edited, Feb 12th 2008 1:33pm by digitalcraft
thanks i look into it ^^
Martinetty wrote:
You´re wrong Theophanny.
No, you're just stupid.
Let's both agree that I'm right. It'll make things much easier on you in this forum.
Unless he's referring to the 5% chance of getting a second hit with sword spec.
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