New Mage SpellsFollow

Useless, then? :P Caster one-hands, at least, never gear better in melee between the beginning of Outlands and Sunwell, all damage above ~41.6dps is sacrificed and turned into +dmg.

I hope that we wil get a bit stronger armor, Mage cloth sometimes doesn't cut it.

I want a spell that instantly kills any target in the game, with a 2 hour cooldown to balance it 0.o

Imagine the raid viability of Kazump's suggestions. lol. Want Illidan taken down? Carve a path there for a mage to 1 shot him =P Overpowered? No way!

I think that a couple more instant casts would be a good idea. That would give the mage some more ability in PvP. As nice as DOTs would be your kinda crossing over into the warlock side of dps if you know what I mean

It would be sweet if fire mage got a fire elemental, like frost has a Water elemental.

You know blizzard will never give the fire tree a pet. Mostly because Blizz wants a specific spec be best in one specific situation pve/pvp.

Think about it, the pet of frosties isnt even near as good in most raids as it is in arena (due to be oneshotted by an AOE, pyroblast whatever).

PVP is about quick insane burst dmg while you be able to keep yourself a live. PVE needs sustained dmg and less threat so its easier to keep you alive.

Giving a fire mage a pet thus ruins the whole theory Blizz has in this game. Ofc they want frosties to be able to raid (icy veins) but in the end they like it that fire does more dmg then frost.

Or look at combat rogues, insane dps at pve, insane useless in pvp...


So the point im trying to make is that fire will never get a pvp viable pet, frost will never do as much dmg as fire and a combat rogue will always keep sucking in pvp. So don't ask for skills/abilities/talents to make a certain spec suddenly good in another environment because that just won't happen.


Edited, Feb 12th 2008 3:55pm by gnetter

Do you have any %&@#ing clue about rogue PVP?



Edit: Shamans already have a fire ele pet, mages won't get one as well.

Edited, Feb 12th 2008 11:06am by Bigdaddyjug

Personally, I love the idea of quested spells, especially if such spells are mutually exclusive to one another. Say an Aldor or Scryer only spell.

That being said, I had an idea this morning for an interesting mechanic - a mobile DoT. I was thinking of in terms of a 'pet' of sorts, at least in how you'd control it. I was thinking of it as Flame Whip (animation would be similar to a Drain Life or Chain Lightning channel) that would be able to be controlled via the pet bar as to whom it was hitting.

Give it some hefty damage and you've got a mage DoT that is totally different from any Warlock DoTs so as to not step on toes. It would also be interesting if it could (when talented) hit other targets in range (like a chain spell).

And now as I'm typing this, I'm getting other ideas for spells with similar special effects:

Arcane Arc: 1.5 sec cast Target enemy gains Arcane Conductor for 20 seconds. Any other enemy with Arcane Conductor within 10 yards causes a beam of magic energy to erupt between them causing 100 damage every second to all targets in it's path (includes both targets with Arcane Conductor). Targets damaged by the beam gain Arcane Conductor for 5 seconds.

This would be an AoE very unlike any other currently available. You get a couple of mages casting this into a tight group of mobs and you'll have bunches of damage to everything in the middle. Each target with this debuff would be able to start a chain with any other mob with it as long as they were within 10 yards. Let's say that you have four Tuskarrs attacking your party(hey we're looking forward to WotLK right?) and two mages both cast Arcane Arc on two separate targets. One beam of energy arcs between them and maybe catches one of the others. That mob gains Arcane Conductor and starts two new beams heading back to the two original targets, forming a triangle. Now they are each getting hit with two beams doubling the damage taken. One of the new beams hits the fourth target and that one gains Arcane Conductor and opens up connections with the other three. That's heaps of damage!

Arcane Nullification: 6 second cast Target area (size of Blizzard) nullifies all magic buffs and debuffs within its area and for 4 seconds after leaving the area. Also prevents spell casting and mana regeneration for the same duration. Nullification lasts for 30 seconds. Requires Arcane Dust.

Pretty straightforward, and perhaps very niche in utility but it makes for some interesting tactics in defending in Battlegrounds. Cast that on choke points like bridges just as the opposition is rushing your position to rob them of buffs and such for a while while also shutting down casters. The vast casting time would also make it unlikely to be used in Arena PvP (though this coupled with PoM could be nasty).

Wall of Ice: 3 second cast Target area (a 1 foot wide, 10 yard long line) erupts with giant icicles. Any enemy crossing the area is Frozen for 10 seconds and takes cold damage every second. This damage will not break Frozen.

That's just a nasty, nasty spell to throw at a group charging your position. A handful of frost mages on the other side ready to huck Icelances would decimate onrushing attackers.

I could probably go on for quite a while...

MORE HP!!!! even if all our spells stay exactly the same just more life. I see mages in full spellfire/ spellstrike, with like 7-8k hp and 8-9k mana and still get outdps'd by equally geared locks but the locks are rocking 11-12k hp. I've ran instances where the lock had more hp than the buffed tank did...

Some sort of resilience negation. Mage burst damage in pvp is severely gimped due to how hard it is to crit anything with pvp gear on. especially now that s1 gear is so easy to get. and when s4 comes out and everyones runnin around in welfare Merciless gear??? mages will officially be taken out of PvP simply because we dont have the hp to stay alive, and cant do the damage we need to kill anything super fast. Pre-BC when i was 1-2 shotting people in BG's at 60...

also more damage output.

I think we are all good with the spell we have but, If Blizz can give mage a frost spell that put a dot to keep rogue to re stealth I'll be happy