Agi/Crit GimpedFollow

Pets don't get any crit from us. Their crit chance depends on their level. But the way that bliz decides on crit is the amount of successful hits per minute.

Rogues and DPS warriors dual wield. I know some DPS warriors use a 2H, but they can dual wield. Dual wielding shoots your miss chance up to 28% against a raid boss (versus our measly 10% miss chance). They attack much faster and have a much higher crit chance but they also get WAY more misses. A DPS warrior using a 2h weapon has a higher hit chance, but a much much much slower attack speed.

Mages and other casters have to cast their spells, and often times have a 2-4 second cast. They get in fewer hits per minute, and therefore get a higher crit chance to even things out.

If our crit scaled as well as rogues and warriors, SV hunters could probably get 70% crit chance without raid buffs, and 100% chance with. Marry that with a 100% chance to hit a raid boss every 2 seconds PLUS steady shots woven in between that, and you've got yourself an incredibly overpowered character.

I don't suggest stacking up on purely AP just because crit doesn't scale well with agi. If you're stacking on AP, you aren't getting ANY crit.


Edited, Feb 8th 2008 7:51am by ProjectMidnight

Also remember AP doesn't scale at all with buffs, Agility does.

And yeah the crappy crit conversion from Agility is due to how many shots we can put out in a minute.

BM can put out about 1 shot a second, which means 60 shots a minute = 600 shots in a 10 minute fight (Void Reaver). lets say 25% crit, thats 150 crits in 10 minutes, with mortal shots thats 150 shots that are doing 130% extra damage and your steady shots and normal shots can crit for like 1200-1300 or more (with mortal shots), so 150x 1250= 187500 damage just from your crits. Add in your normal shots of around 500-700... (450x600)+ 187500= 457500 total damage and you just took off about 9% of Void Reavers HP by yourself, and you're in a 25 man raid.

If they made crit scale better with Agility we'd be so overpowered it's ridiculous, especially in PvP though as an Aimed Shot crit can be about 3k and put that in your normal Aimed, Multi, Arcane opener and you just took off at least 5-7k in less than 4 seconds, if you crit on all of them almost 8k... OP much?

Pretty horrible example. Intellect, once you get into raiding, hardly matters - it's all about regen, there's enough on gear by default that you ignore it. And intellect->crit ratio is twice as bad as agility->crit (80:1, for most damage casters).

Agility, beyond hit rating, is still point-for-point better than every other stat once you get into Kara-equivalent gear or so. Every point is about twice as good as AP and still a little better than crit, and it scales with Kings and the like.

And yes, warriors and shammies get better crit from agility (25:1, one agility is almost as good as one crit rating), but they get nothing else out of agility (well, dodge, which is slightly helpful if you somehow get into a cleave or something).

EDIT:
Were you around pre-BC? :P

Edited, Feb 8th 2008 1:13pm by lsfreak

They gave hunter the dispell and the mortal strike like ability, so hunters would be a viable part of Arena.

Before that last major patch Hunters were the least represented class in the higher ranks for all the brakets. Something needed to be done to make hunters more arena acceptable.

I don't know how that worked out, but something definately needed to be changed.

Arcane shot can kinda suck in arenas against a team with a resto druid, as you may dispell their lifebloom, which instantly heals them. Also, some hunters forget that they are a ranged attacker. If you could put out the dmg of an arms warrior in half the time from 36 yards away, how is that balanced?