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#1 Feb 07 2008 at 11:21 AM Rating: Decent
Hey guys. I've been doing some 2v2 with a holy pally recently. Most teams we do pretty well against but a lock/priest team has been tearing us up. I've tried a couple different approaches against them to no avail.

Now I normally go for the priest first considering he is the healer. He pops his PW:shield and there lies one of my problems. Should I just keep on him till his shield goes down or should I go for the lock in the meantime? And also, does anyone have any other advice in a battle like this? Thanks
#2 Feb 07 2008 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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lock/priest kinda sucks for war/pal. if the priest is heal spec, your best bet is to try and kill the lock pet first (have your pally pull the pet out of LoS from the priest and you both burst it down, and be ready to do it again if the lock fel doms a new pet) and then you try to keep the warlock and priest snared so your paladin can LoS the mana drain and mana burn while popping out to heal you as needed.

if you deal enough damage to the warlock, the priest is then forced to heal instead of burn, meaning your paladin can get off heals on you more easily.

if the priest is shadow, chances are theyll try to burn one of you down asap. the trick then is to outlast until the priest is oom, then take out the priest while keeping the warlock snared. easier said than done, but its the best bet for war/pally teams. be sure to use shadow protection aura if youve got it, and go defensive stance if they start to focus fire you (spell reflect too).

oh, also, sunder is very valuable vs this team. it takes awhile, especially if there is a bubble to cut thru first, but if you can get 5/5 sunder on either the lock or the priest while your dpsing them, it puts a LOT of pressure on them.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 12:23pm by Quor
#3 Feb 07 2008 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
Sounds like a good plan. One of the battles I did end up attacking the lock's pet and the priest threw a pw:s on it which made it possible for them to just rape us while I was trying to take it down. I never even thought of sundering them. I definitely want to try that out. Also, given the fact that my partner is a very new 70, things are bound to get better. Thanks for the info.

Oh as far as the pw:s, should I just stay on the priest and tear the shield down or switch targets?
#4 Feb 07 2008 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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in a 2's, the priest can keep both targets shielded full time, as long as they dont have the weakened soul debuff. basically, this gives you 15s after a shield to pop it before having to deal with a new one.

one way to help deal with that is to make sure you stack as many damage effects at once, such as saving death wish for use with a trinket after you've procced flurry. but theres no guaranteed way of doing it really; a lot of it just depends on whether or not you get a crit off. if you do, youll more than likely break the shield. if not, you probably wont, or if you do, a new one will be back up in a few seconds.

vs any lock, check to see if they have a sacrifice bubble up, and if they do, dont engage until it wears off. thatll help a lot in the long run.

as far as pet killing goes, you need to LoS the pet as best you can and have your paladin exorcism it while you dps it. this should kill most fel hunters in under 5s, assuming at least one of you nabs a crit. voidwalkers are a bit tougher, but if the lock is using a voidwalker then theres no danger of spell lock, which gives your paladin more wiggle room.

a lot of this fight depends on your paladins ability to LoS mana burn and mana drain and fear, as well as your ability to keep both the priest and lock controlled while also getting in range long enough for the paladin to keep you up. once the lock starts life tapping things get a bit easier, since thats extra damage done essentially, and if youre pressuring the priest the entire time, then youre forcing the priest to split healing, which, if youre good enough, is what will give you the win eventually.

dont be afraid to coordinate attacks with your paladin either. now that +healing adds damage, even a fully decked healing pally can put out some mean judgements and holy shocks, not to mention hammer of wrath.

above all, dont forget that its mostly an issue of practice and counters. in 2's, some combos counter other combos, and war/pal gets countered hard by priest/lock, altho it counters war/druid pretty easily. keep at it and eventually youll both learn how to work together to the best of your ability and adapt to situations as they arise.
#5 Feb 07 2008 at 6:52 PM Rating: Good
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Speaking as a priest that 2v2s very often with a warlock I can help. You want to stay on the priest as much as you can, he will be the weakest, yes he has PW: Shield but as was stated above he will shield the lock as well. If you just stay on the priest though they are usually pretty squishy even with resil against a warrior and hamstring will prevent him LoSing you, but what you do want to do is keep that priest away from your pally because he will mana burn the hell out of him and Mass Dispel his bubble when he uses it... Other than that though I'd say just stay on the priest and definitely stay away from the locks pet, almost all locks in arena can .5 sec summon another pet so it's pretty pointless to attack that... gl
#6 Feb 08 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
Great advice guys. Thanks for tips :)
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