Mongoose vs ExecutionerFollow

In defense of the quoted info, he says 5.7% more damage, and on a 5k armored target executioner will cause your physical attacks to do 5.7% more damage. DPS is a whole other animal and can depend on cycles and all sorts of things, whereas with mongoose a crit % increase and 2% haste is something that is much easier to calculate.

His POV is definitely from a PvP perspective with taking into account burst and resilience and ignoring haste (i think haste is a bit less important for warriors in PvP with their slow 2h).

But the fact still is executioner on a 5k target causes 5.7% more damage for each physical attack, which iirc, is only autoattack and CS for a pally.

The last time i looked at mongoose just a couple days ago it put up much larger numbers in PvE. I would be happier if somebody like RPzip would agree though, since i totally f-d up the executioner math when i did it the first time today.

Right, but that's why you can't just accept that math at face value. Skills and talents happen, quite frequently I believe, so you can't just take some numbers and make a base assumption either way.


SoC and JoC work off of some physical modifiers like crit, but they are still considered spells for all intents and purposes. If they were physical damage and mitigated by physical armor as such, Retribution Paladins would be in a state ten times worse than they are right now.



Ah. Ok. When someone says "arena" I tend to think of... well... you know... arenas.

But if we are talking about "arena" arenas then I would definitely go with the weapon chain. Getting disarmed by a Warrior or Rogue--two classes you're likely to see at least one of in nearly every single match--is far more devestating than the loss of a couple DPS or armor penetration. But that's personal preference.