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Gun/Bow Enchant Question: +12 Dmg? or +2% Crit?Follow

#1 Feb 06 2008 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
...and is the Stabilitzed Eternium Scope really 2%?

I'm in an arena team and I BG, and I'm planning on getting my S1 Gun from honor pts (b/c I'll never reach 1850(!))

so my questions are:
(A) is that a gun you guys think it's worth it to blow the $$ for a StabEterScope?

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(B) is that even the better scope for a MM hunter w/ that gun?

I mean, I'm thinking burst is good to mess w/ healers etc.. but the +12 Dmg is pretty good dps, but after turning on Aspect of Hawk & Trueshot Aura, I'm at ~2000 AP, so I'm not so bad, but my crit is already at like, 25% already too....

...so what's the better scope? :)

Thanks very much!
#2 Feb 06 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
I would say that getting more crit rating would not hurt you at all. In fact it would still help you more. As for the damage it only adds to the damage that your weapon itself does, not you DPS. I am pretty sure about that too. I would personally go with the crit. That's just me though.
#3 Feb 06 2008 at 12:08 PM Rating: Good
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The crit is generally better, however it is very expensive. I know I'm saving my crit scope for the wolfslayer.
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#4 Feb 06 2008 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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I think it is 1.27% crit at 70, not the 2% that the sticky implies(which I believe is how it would work out at level 60). I'm not positive, but I wrote a generic mark-up(which was extremely flawed), that brought up good points about the two scopes. I'll look it up in a minute and link it.

Edit:

Here is the link to the thread.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=5;mid=1196371369287399084#m1196373087247969389

Ultimately what was discussed is that the +damage scope only affects white damage(auto shot), while the crit scope affects everything.

Crit scope works out to be better but at the same time, unless you are using an endgame weapon that you don't plan to replace any time soon, go with the cheaper +12 damage scope.

Edited, Feb 6th 2008 3:27pm by SynnTastic
#5 Feb 06 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I´ll start by saying that i dont say you are wrong and i havent acually checked it up at all, but why would they count it on lv60 when its an TBC scope?

That said the crit scope is almost always the best scope(apart from the hit scope if you can get it and need hit) when i have checked it in the spreadsheet.

So yea, if you think you will hold on to the wep for awhile then go for it.
#6 Feb 06 2008 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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Since the vast majority of Arena teams are still fairly weak (like mine) and the players lesser equipped, Crit appears to me to still be a good stat. I will admit that fighting in the Arena certainly humbles you crit wise. I'm so used to getting crits off of Multi that I could count on at least one per shot, sometimes more. Now I see one every 3rd or 4th Multishot. Arena players and that resil gear just makes it harder.

Probably by the time WotLK comes out and all the gear changes you might see very high resil gear on more players and crit may be worth less. At that point, you'll be grinding to 80 and the mobs will probably not be as resillient so that scope will continue to be useful for at least a few levels.

So, I agree, crit is better but make sure you have a weapon you wanna keep through the first few 70 levels.
#7 Feb 07 2008 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
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"So, I agree, crit is better but make sure you have a weapon you wanna keep through the first few 70 levels"


lawl...is anybody planning that far right now. There is another patch with rumor of a legendary bow right now. Also, 2-3 days worth of dailies should cover the cost of the crit scope, if you had to buy the mats yourself anyway.
Its definately worth the cost for the dps increase on any weapon you plan on using for an extetended amount of time.
#8 Feb 07 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
The scope goes for 500g on my server, and I'm very lazy so money is hard to come by lol. I don't have an epic mount so I can't do netherwing dailies, so my gold income is low. I stay with the +dmg anyway because out of the countless times I've ran Kara, only 1 bow has dropped, the Xbow, which is good, but isn't a keeper.
#9 Feb 07 2008 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
So I guess this answers my question .... (?)
Lol, thank you all. I guess I just didn't know whether the extra +1.27% crit was better for arena than doing extra dmg.....

I'm not sure (or very concerned) which is better for BG'ing... but in arena.. I just don't know what you guys think... I'm thinking you get off ~50-100 shots in arena ( I have NO idea, I've never counted) but if that's the case then it's only about 0-1 extra crits per arena match : /

so I don't know if, (in arena) the extra crit would be better than the extra dmg... or if it even MATTERS (lol) b/c I'm never going to get *very* high in my rating

So, thank you.... I shall now go mine the $#it out of the outlands & get enough eternium to make all the effing felsteel bars needed :)
#10 Feb 07 2008 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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oldrtybstrd wrote:
So I guess this answers my question .... (?)
Lol, thank you all. I guess I just didn't know whether the extra +1.27% crit was better for arena than doing extra dmg.....

I'm not sure (or very concerned) which is better for BG'ing... but in arena.. I just don't know what you guys think... I'm thinking you get off ~50-100 shots in arena ( I have NO idea, I've never counted) but if that's the case then it's only about 0-1 extra crits per arena match : /

so I don't know if, (in arena) the extra crit would be better than the extra dmg... or if it even MATTERS (lol) b/c I'm never going to get *very* high in my rating

So, thank you.... I shall now go mine the $#it out of the outlands & get enough eternium to make all the effing felsteel bars needed :)


To sum it up as easy as possible. I don't know how many auto shots you are getting out in one arena match, but for me it was maybe maybe about 15-20%. The rest were special shots while I was running around wing clipping and traping and running.

+damage scope only works with your auto shots. +crit scope works with all your shots. For me the choice is simple, I would go with the +crit scope. You may get off more auto shots than I do, I don't know. I know that I was usually the prime target in my 5v5 so I was busy running around jump shotting to not get killed off, your mileage may vary.
#11 Feb 08 2008 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm not spending 450G (Server average) on a scope for my crossbow. I'm trying to get rid of this thing as it is.

But yeah, it is the better scope, when you get your top-end weapon that you can't find an upgrade for.
#12 Feb 08 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Once you get the Sunfury Bow or the Wolfslayer Sniper Rifle slap the crit scope on it, anything other than those just isn't worth it (unless you only PvP then stick it on the S3 Arena Ranged weapon you get).
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