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#1 Feb 06 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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Nooblestick and Demia will especially love this one. I am LOL'ing at my desk so hard my boss came to check on me.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=4311056203&sid=1

The important excerpts:

"Speaking of Excel it is just incredible how much this application can do when you are capable of unlocking its full potential."

"it is often said that a person's technical value in finance is directly tied to how good he is with Excel. "

" A little programming goes a long way "


OMG he called Excel "programming." I am tearing up from laughing so hard. I should quit my programming job and enter finance.
#2 Feb 06 2008 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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he sure is proud of himself
#3 Feb 06 2008 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Said he used his sharingan too. I don't think they teach that in college.
#4 Feb 06 2008 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I feel so ashamed for him... he called excel programming. The program requires no thaught, just the ability to read and write.

Aside from his ignorance, a few of those macros seemed useful, like:

Quote:
#show hemorrhage
/startattack
/use [combat] Bloodlust Brooch
/cast [nostealth] stealth
/cast [combat] Hemorrhage


Quote:
#show eviscerate
/cast [modifier:shift] Envenom; Eviscerate
#5 Feb 06 2008 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
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Hate to break it to you guys, Ming didn't invent those macros. They've been around for a loooong time.
#6 Feb 06 2008 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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that dude is a top notch blatherer.
#7 Feb 06 2008 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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/agree with Theo

I know I learned about using [modifer:] from WowWiki quite a while ago. And doesn't the Alla macro sticky have all that same info in an actually more useful "teach a man to fish" sorta way?


I don't know what the beef with this Ming is, but that post might have helped a few people... who knows. Just wish he'd have given links to other resources.
#8 Feb 06 2008 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
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TherionSaysWhat wrote:
/agree with Theo

I know I learned about using [modifer:] from WowWiki quite a while ago. And doesn't the Alla macro sticky have all that same info in an actually more useful "teach a man to fish" sorta way?


I don't know what the beef with this Ming is, but that post might have helped a few people... who knows. Just wish he'd have given links to other resources.

Ming thinks he's God's gift to WoW players.

In some ways he is, because he brings a lot of attention to some stuff that the elite knew about, but when it comes to general player base, he's like the guy that told everyone about Thomas Edison inventing the light bulb; he didn't do **** other than telling people.
#9 Feb 07 2008 at 6:06 AM Rating: Good
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Ming purposely writes a little flamebait into each post to garner more attention. Most of those macros are...not good.
#10 Feb 07 2008 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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For those reading the linked thread, a note: Using "#showtooltip" rather than the "#show <abilityname>" is better as it will automatically change the ability icon in different conditions. Naming the ability in the #show won't do that.

For example, here's a macro I use:

#showtooltip
/cast [modifier:ctrl] Slice and Dice; Sinister Strike

When I hold down the control key, the icon in my tool bar changes to the SnD icon. If it said "#show Sinister Strike" it would always show the icon for SS even when I held down the control key. The visual helps, a lot.

Far as I know, this applies to all conditionals.
#11 Feb 07 2008 at 2:56 PM Rating: Good
...I program plenty in excel for my job >.> You use VBA macros, which is literally programming. I've made VB macros to dedup and remove bad email addresses, send email lists, etc.

We use VBA here a lot, I don't do as much as some, but one person uses excel VBA macros to set up the file structure for new projects including blank templates for datamaps, changelogs etc. We have VB macros in excel to test for faulty data such as people responding to surveys with conflicting answers etc.

Ming may not know any VBA but I do, and I can tell you that it is just as at least as complex a programming language as Java or SQL, its just tailored specifically to the MSoffice environment with a lib to support program interoperability.

His statement linking 'the full potential of Excel' with 'programming' is not incorrect.

Edited, Feb 7th 2008 2:56pm by digitalcraft
#12 Feb 07 2008 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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digitalcraft, Goblin in Disguise wrote:
it is just as at least as complex a programming language as Java or SQL, its just tailored specifically to the MSoffice environment with a lib to support program interoperability.


Seconded. If you know what you are doing, programming in Excel can be quite complex, and the applications can truly be mind-boggling at times. This guy I graduated with (a genius if I ever knew one) modified his Excel so it could run his DNA sequencing analyses (well over 200,000 columns of data, I think Excel can normally handle ~65,000 columns of data). He coupled his crazy macros with voice dictation software (he had some handicaps which severely limited the use of his hands) to make some amazing findings in his research.

What ming is doing, however, could hardly be called high level programming, nor is it even original, as has been noted several times already, but it can be useful to those that care to utilize it.
#13 Feb 07 2008 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm, I think I must retract part of my original post. Excel has saved my @$$ many times, though not necessarily through programming. With the proper skill, excel can do almost anything. I love being able to plug in a formula for 1 column and a number in a slot on that column and having the answer pop out on the next. Its like an advanced calculator.


And now to flame myself.

Untoucheable wrote:
The program requires no thaught, just the ability to read and write.


The program requires no thaught to access the basics. It does, however, require much skill to access the more advanced parts (just look at the dps spreadsheet). I shouldn't have been so hasty to write that first post as I did not realize there were more programmers here than just me walked these forums.

Ming is still stupid.
#14 Feb 07 2008 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I will continue to hate Ming.

I will pretend I don't know about the macro writing aspect of Excel and continue to flame people who pride their Excel expertise.

I will continue to feel superior for reasons that are incorrect.


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
#15 Feb 08 2008 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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DrMayhem wrote:
I will continue to hate Ming.

I will pretend I don't know about the macro writing aspect of Excel and continue to flame people who pride their Excel expertise.

I will continue to feel superior for reasons that are incorrect.


MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Ignorance?

If you are a programmer, you should know that VBA (Visual Basic for Applications) is indeed programming and is used alot in Databases. (MS Access)

I have writed alot of programs based on this programming language in MS Access, which took months of work.

and on the other side, i dont care what ming says. He isnt a god or something.
#16 Feb 08 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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Untoucheable wrote:
thaught


It's "thought". First time I thought it was a typo, apparently not.
#17 Feb 08 2008 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
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KTurner wrote:
Untoucheable wrote:
thaught


It's "thought". First time I thought it was a typo, apparently not.


Wow, "thaught" always sounded better to me. Thanks for correcting me. Rate up on the catch.

Edited, Feb 9th 2008 2:33pm by Untoucheable
#18 Feb 12 2008 at 3:25 AM Rating: Good
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Maverickzzz wrote:

Ignorance?



I have writed alot of programs based on this programming language in MS Access, which took months of work.




I'm kinda ashamed, because I don't have the first clue how to make programs. Hell, I even suck at macros, but I know that the proper word is written, not writed :)



Edited, Feb 12th 2008 6:26am by VRTFirestarter

Edited, Feb 12th 2008 4:46pm by VRTFirestarter
#19 Feb 12 2008 at 4:24 AM Rating: Good
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Way to fail at understanding Mayhem's sense of humor.
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