Am I right in believing that for a prot pally who is soloing mobs either AoE grinding or just killing something in his way, a high DPS weapon is best?
If so, is there a point where a flat out +Spell damage weapon would be better for this type of play than a high DPS weapon?
For example, if I had the Cyrstalforged Sword with a +40 spell damage enchant on it, would it be better to use than say a more "warriorish" weapon?
Keep in mind that I'm not talking about tanking, but simple world PvE grinding/questing/whatever.
Thanks for the help
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World PvE I'd still stick with a spell damage weapon because you will be lacking any melee stats making the DPS of your weapon not worth fretting over. If you're taking one at a time, particularly against casters, I'd say use a 2H as that "may" let you kill things slightly faster.
Edited, Feb 3rd 2008 1:11am by Maulgak
Edited, Feb 3rd 2008 1:11am by Maulgak
You can also just get an entirely different set for those times. Just start picking up pieces here and there in instances when you would otherwise have everyone greed or DE it. That's how I got the majority of my Ret-DPS gear. It isn't great by any means, but I can kill single targets much faster than if I just swapped out a 2-hander.
I'd never really thought about using a 2-hander on casters. Usually I'd just whack at them with my sword 'n board, and then cry when chuck magics at me. I'd assume that a crusader judgement and then a 2-hander with Righteousness would be proper here.
So anyways, thanks a lot for the input. I'ma go try it out right now.
So anyways, thanks a lot for the input. I'ma go try it out right now.
I'd only recommend the total gear swap if you're not carrying around a healing kit like I do. Wit ha DPS kit, a healing kit, and everything from water to flasks in my bags, there's really not room for a DPS kit. Your bags may differ though offering you more room, but be aware to not overfill your bags or killing those things won't mean a damn since you cant' get their loot :P
I levelled my paladin prot from level 1 to 70. I never felt the need for a second set of gear. Yes it might have been a bit faster, but my +defense and my crystalforged with +40 spell damage, sealing/judging seal of righteousness does the job easily. With this - like Maulgak stated - a high dps weapon doesnt add so much because you lack the typical Ret gear. It just feels so damn good that you can defeat ANYTHING.
If I would have to choose between a high dps weapon and a +spell damage weapon I would choose the latter any day, but thats just me. I love being prot and I will use the abilities that come with it. No swapping for me, baby! /smile
If I would have to choose between a high dps weapon and a +spell damage weapon I would choose the latter any day, but thats just me. I love being prot and I will use the abilities that come with it. No swapping for me, baby! /smile
I'd recommend the Crystalforged Sword as a tanking weapon, whether it be solo or in a group. Great stats, decent spell damage. I've tanked heroics using that baby.
EDIT: When I say tanking weapon, I mean Prot Pally weapon.
Edited, Feb 4th 2008 2:33pm by Dathur
EDIT: When I say tanking weapon, I mean Prot Pally weapon.
Edited, Feb 4th 2008 2:33pm by Dathur
Zeromatter wrote:
Am I right in believing that for a prot pally who is soloing mobs either AoE grinding or just killing something in his way, a high DPS weapon is best?
If so, is there a point where a flat out +Spell damage weapon would be better for this type of play than a high DPS weapon?
For example, if I had the Cyrstalforged Sword with a +40 spell damage enchant on it, would it be better to use than say a more "warriorish" weapon?
Keep in mind that I'm not talking about tanking, but simple world PvE grinding/questing/whatever.
Thanks for the help
If so, is there a point where a flat out +Spell damage weapon would be better for this type of play than a high DPS weapon?
For example, if I had the Cyrstalforged Sword with a +40 spell damage enchant on it, would it be better to use than say a more "warriorish" weapon?
Keep in mind that I'm not talking about tanking, but simple world PvE grinding/questing/whatever.
Thanks for the help
It depends on what you're fighting.
For instance, if you're mass grinding on melee mobs while using a petrified lichen guard with a shield spike, then I would grab a crystalforged sword. The main reasons are that a lot of your damage is going to come from casting (holy shield, consecrate) and your shield, and the Crystalforged sword has both spell damage and increased block chance.
If you don't have a shield with a spike, it would be better to go with a Gladiator's Gavel, since spell damage will still be very helpful for you.
If you're fighting casters or anything 1v1, a higher DPS weapon will be better.
Dathur wrote:
I'd recommend the Crystalforged Sword as a tanking weapon, whether it be solo or in a group. Great stats, decent spell damage. I've tanked heroics using that baby.
Zeromatter wrote:
Keep in mind that I'm not talking about tanking, but simple world PvE grinding/questing/whatever.
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I am at work so don't have my notes with me but I was wondering the same thing a few weeks ago. I went to the Ogri'la and fought the demon dudes around the apex emanation places. They are all lvl 70 so gave an easy comparison. I used a King's Defender and Crystalforged Sword with no spell power enhancement. I recorded the amount that SoR hit for with both swords and how much the judgements hit for. I then divided the amounts for the reg proc by the weapon speed and the judgement by 8(I have imp judgement) I added these amounts to the DPS shown on the tooltip from the Character screen(not the raw DPS). In all cases (with and without SoC) the DPS of the crystallforged was greater than that of the King's Defender. However, if you do not judge the SoR regularily when it pops the King's Defender will have higher DPS as the damage increase from the judged seal is a big factor in the crystalforged DPS.
Kang
Kang
Instead of swapping wpns, try swapping to all spell dam gear for small grps or for single casters. Much faster than trying to kill stuff in straight tanking gear imo. For example, with kings, i have 12k hp, 5.5k mana, 63% avoidance and 226 spell dam in tanking gear takes forever to kill anything 1 at a time, unless i burn all my mana, which doesn't take long in that gear either. So for normal grinding i swap out about 80% of my gear for spell dam/int gear, in that gear i'm at 10.4k hp, 7.9k mana, 38% avoidance, 486 spell dam including an aoe damaging shield with a felsteel spike(engineering shield).
I like to use the Righteous Armor set (gemmed for spell damage and mp5) along with my spell damage weapon for soloing. I have enough spell damage to down single targets more easily, and enough defense to make my multi-mob grinding work well too.
Not sure why I didn't mention this before, lol, but sometimes I swap into my healing gear for single target killing for the increase in my mana/spell damage. Only thing with that is when I switch my mana pool basically doubles creating a small amount of down time, then back to tank gear my health shoots up creating a small amount of downtime. But, I kill things a bit faster.
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