So I'm doing SV on my hunter with a fraternity brother (holy paladin with 400 healing, but I'm not going there), and we get in, and the prot tank has never tanked anything before. He's trying to hold aggro using judgment of wisdom, hardly any spell damage so his consecrates do nothing, critable, crushable, and he has under 9k health (including talents). I go and inspect him, look what talents he was told to get (by the +400 healing paladin) and he's rocking this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZVhtIx0dggqtVb
He couldn't even hold aggro when I would misdirect the mob to him and give him a huge chunk of initial threat. It was all I could do to keep from running from my room screaming. We didn't even make it to the first boss.
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In my brief foray into Holy I had a Paladin tank in one of my groups (who later became my OT in Kara) who just had god-awful talents and gear. As we were progressing through the instance I just kept feeding him tips about his gear and talents, fortunately he was receptive to that information and kept asking for more. I told him about the 490 defense and avoidance and everything else, and he kept working for it and now he's progressed further than me only because the guild we were in disbanded when I left (apparently I was the glue that held it together, even though I had JUST joined the guild) and he joined a better guild.
Anyway, wasn't 100% relevant to this post, but he was pretty terrible when we started out.
Looking at those talents they weren't tooooo bad, the only thing really missing is parry which he could have swapped out Imp. Judgement and Precision for. But you have to be trying to be under 9k health with all the STA bonuses we get.
Anyway, wasn't 100% relevant to this post, but he was pretty terrible when we started out.
Looking at those talents they weren't tooooo bad, the only thing really missing is parry which he could have swapped out Imp. Judgement and Precision for. But you have to be trying to be under 9k health with all the STA bonuses we get.
I've already told the story about the lock that ONLY used Soulfire, no dots, no sb, no nothing but that 1 min cool down spell.
I have mentioned the hunter who hadn't bought Misdirect because he figured it was a useless skill, same with frost trap.
There was the Prot Warrior in Prot pally gear. Not sure how the spelldamage was helping him but hey, at least he got one shotted by the bear boss in ZA. /bubblehearth
A mage that refused to sheep, a warrior who had 350 threat per second max, a moonkin druid who asked for kings instead of salv and kept clicking off salv in protest, (he died a lot), A enh shammy who even after down vashj could never dodge a aoe circle on the ground like the ones you have been seeing since the lvl 60 coilfang dungeons. The melee hunter, a Holy pally that ONLY used FOL, a priest who tried to MC every mob and never healed, its the main reason I am glad I am past the point where I have to pug anymore.
I have mentioned the hunter who hadn't bought Misdirect because he figured it was a useless skill, same with frost trap.
There was the Prot Warrior in Prot pally gear. Not sure how the spelldamage was helping him but hey, at least he got one shotted by the bear boss in ZA. /bubblehearth
A mage that refused to sheep, a warrior who had 350 threat per second max, a moonkin druid who asked for kings instead of salv and kept clicking off salv in protest, (he died a lot), A enh shammy who even after down vashj could never dodge a aoe circle on the ground like the ones you have been seeing since the lvl 60 coilfang dungeons. The melee hunter, a Holy pally that ONLY used FOL, a priest who tried to MC every mob and never healed, its the main reason I am glad I am past the point where I have to pug anymore.
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