Raid try outs (need opinion)Follow

Hi Im planning to try a few new raid builds but before I do I want to hear your pro's or con's

I appriciate each constructive reply and please dont flame...

Now since Im mainly based on DPS you can say Im a real ATP addict I choose ATP over AGI (my personal choise.) I dont care so much about crits but more about pure hardcore white damage.

Sub Build

This one is based on backstabs and significally increase my ATP and also my agility

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Combat Spec

The basic setup that most people know, notice how I did not choose for sword/dagger/mace/fist (again personal choise). The riposte has proven to come in handy quite a few times but is ofcourse useless against bosses. I would think this is more an heroic or normal dungeon setup not rly raid

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Hybrid

This one I like to call the hybrid, the biggest changes I did here was:
Trading CP and SA for CB and QR

Im not so sure about the CB but I recon its fairly nice to have a 5 CB 100% crit on a mob/boss
Also the QR makes it easier for the healers to heal you with the +20% bonus, thinking of mana efficiency for them, since all been there at gruul, illihoof, aran and so on.

Now I would like some honest opinions about all these builds, do keep in mind my main goal is raiding not questing since im completely done with that

Tnx in advance

Edited, Feb 1st 2008 1:28pm by ElWaSTo

It wouldnt be the first time that there is a ninja pull or out of controle situations

If I then kick in my CD I thank the lord I got riposte from time to time

All 3 fail for raid specs:

Sub dagger is really bad dam and if you don't stack agi sinister calling does next to nothing for you in terms of additional ap and crit. And hopefully i don't need to explain all the lose that is hemo+daggers.

Combat spec is missing a wpn choice, sword spec scales the best with raid buffs, but fists/maces do fine as well. Parry/riposte is worthless outside of pvp, also you say your builds are about white dam but you are missing murder from all but the 'hybrid' build.

The hybrid build again is missing a wpn choice and cold blood, vile poisons and quick recovery don't come close to the extra dam you can get from combat potency.

Examples of better raid builds:
Sub(anything but daggers) build - http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201000000000000000052020000000000000000004522031000321210501351

Combat swords/fist/maces -
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201053000000000000233052002050150023210510000000000000000000000

Hybrid swords -
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201000000000000000053052000050140020000005022231020300210000000

Hybrid deadliness(anything other than daggers) -
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201000000000000000053052000050100000000005022231030301210400000

Combat daggers -
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201040000000000003203052000550100023211510500000000000000000000

Combat Mut -
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?0053201055221025110513203052000050000000000000000000000000000000000


Edited, Feb 1st 2008 4:32pm by mahlerite

No, you would use Hemo. But remember that Sub is the absolute worst PvE build.

nvm i found this Rogue Site and it is the answer to all my questions lol