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#1 Jan 31 2008 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
The build I'm aiming for:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/paladin/talents.html?0550310000000000000005025033500020525005500000000000000000000000

I'm not currently worried about PVP too much, so I don't see missing talents that would be necessary for PVP to be a problem right now.
I play along side a mage and a hunter so I pretty much act as main tank/healer, which is why I went mostly prot and added a bit to holy to aid the other two.



I won't be aoe grinding, so I didn't bother getting BoS, am I going to regret that even though I don't aoe grind?
I didn't bother getting holy shield because the charges on it didn't really 'whoo' me over, am I going to regret that?
And the Avenger Shield, as nice as it looks, I didn't have enough points to get what I wanted + get what I needed.

Will my build make it? At all? For how long?

At first I dumped 5/5 into redoubt, then moved over to divine int, then into spiritual focus, healing light, aura mastery. (Only got the aura mastery because I can't seem to keep the hunter and mage sticking to one area at a time so there's plenty of times I'm trying to think of who to go to aid first)
After I finished up what I wanted in holy, I moved back to prot.



Any advice would be appreciated, thanks

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 6:27pm by poisonlyjynxed
#2 Jan 31 2008 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
first off, Holy shield, if your not going to aoe grind, you will not burn those 4 charges. so the charges will be a non issue. it will serve you well enough with only 4 charges.

second, gaurdians favor will not help you out often, and the blessing of freedom buff will only really help you in PvP. Blessing of Protection shouldnt be used all that often. specially with a hunter / mage combo you have a lot of CC to not need to use your panic buttons if ever.

third, if your going to just trio quests to lvl up, then spell warding will serve you little perpose also. hell, it will server you little perpose no matter what you do.

forth, Reckoning shines in AOE grind invironment. sense your not. i would drop reckoning. if you plan to tank some instances here and there, then keep Reckoning. also another good reason to pick up holy shield despite only haveing 4 charges if you choose not to improve it.

after saying all of that, here is a build i think you would get the most of with what your trying to do.

Build

although i really want to tell you to put a point into kings. but kings debatably the most mediocre blessing you have. so i wont bug you about it.

Edit: it would help if i linked the right build rather then the one you posted. >.<

Also, Cjack loves the Holy/Prot builds, he will prolly have better advise then i do.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 4:07pm by RuenBahamut
#3 Jan 31 2008 at 4:19 PM Rating: Good
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I agree with Ruen in that his suggested build will likely get you some more use.

To answer your questions.. Yes, either build will "make it" while levelling. They'll give you a little bit of tanking and healing utility while levelling. Starting from about 40, you'll be a little gimped compared to other pallies with a more focussed build in that respect (and you shouldn't be doing both roles at once anyway, so the off-spec wont "make up" for this) -- this isn't a big deal when you're working together with a team. Of course, the trade off is that you bring a little more utility to your OTHER role when you choose to play it.

Without Holy Shield you'll run into some trouble tanking instances higher than.. Razorfen Downs I'd say, but it would still be doable. Ruen's spec will last longer.. but getting closer to 70 I think you're going to be feeling the pressure to spec into something that doesn't do 2 things "mediocre" but rather excels at something.
#4 Jan 31 2008 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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Aye. These guys do know what they are talking about...

To second the point,
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but getting closer to 70 I think you're going to be feeling the pressure to spec into something that doesn't do 2 things "mediocre" but rather excels at something.


GL
#5 Jan 31 2008 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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poisonlyjynxed wrote:
I won't be aoe grinding, so I didn't bother getting BoS, am I going to regret that even though I don't aoe grind?
I didn't bother getting holy shield because the charges on it didn't really 'whoo' me over, am I going to regret that?


I agree, Ruen's build is probably going to be much more effective for you. I wanted to address the above 2 points though. Holy Shield/BoSanc, like others said, is handy to have for threat gen. Especially if you're going to be running with a mage and a hunter.

Additionally, since you're running with a mage and a hunter, holy shield + BoSanc is going to make a really, really fast and safe for that handy mage with you to AoE for you. Pally + AoE mage? Good stuff right there. The hunter can join in and if something gets away the pet can handle it. That's going to be a nice group.

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Will my build make it? At all? For how long?


Make it for what? For group questing? Yeah you could group with that (meaning your build or Ruen's) right up until 70 probably - some of the harder hitting group quests might hurt if you're tanking with your build but it's doable. Ruen's would be better.

If you're planning on running instances as well as group questing then Ruen's is a better option. Better still would be something like this. With that build you could pretty easily tank any instance up until around the lvl 65 instances. The healing would last at least that long (sorry can't say, by that time I was tanking WAY more than I was healing). This way you and your compadres would just have to find a tank OR a healer and one other and you'd be good to go.

I missed what level you are but I would finish up the prot points before I moved back to putting stuff in the holy tree. Natively, paladins can heal better than they can tank so you'll get a bigger return out of the prot points than the holy ones.

edit: That last bit assumes that you're largely tanking stuff and healing when you can. If the pet is tanking then I'm not sure. Fact still remains that you're going to be able to heal pretty well but if you want to instance you're going to want the points in prot. If you're not going to be instancing at all then... that last paragraph may not apply.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 9:38pm by Celcio
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