Ok.. for some reason i cant seem to access the WOW official forum. But anyway...
My holy healing priest has this terrible problem of having really low hp. When i mean low it means Hp ranging from 5k-6k which seems pretty dangerous even with fort because mobs cld like 1 hit kp you with a crit or even normal whacking. Shielding is one thing but is there anything i can do to increase my hp reasonably?
People say gemming and enchanting... But it's pretty sad gemming +stamina or enchanting +stamina/+hp for a healer, com'on we arnt tankers! I rather invest gems and enchant into + healing pushing our bonus healing to extreme!
Is it just me only or other holy priest out there having this same problem? I've checked my gears and they are pretty decent 50% epic and im at a 5.5k hp even with 2x +12 stamina socketted! >.<
Ok i know ppl recommend glad set for +stamina for hp. But as healers, bg will take eons... Unlike hot headed locks, mages, rogues etc who go on a killing spree, we have to heal and heal. And worst still the estimation of bg dipped my 1 day intensive bg from 8k to 4.5k. O.O And holy in bg is LOL... I respecced to disc for bg. >.<
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Is blizzard leaving stamina for priest a flaw in their design? I mean look at primal mooncloth set... +intl and +spirit and awesome healing but no stamina! I know there are sockets and enchantment avaliable but as healer, its kind of wrong and wierd to socket +stamina. And i did give socketing a 50% to 50% ratio of stamina and healing but my hp is still rediculously low...
Any help any1? I've heard tales of priest with 10k hp, but does the 10k hp a disc spec that compromises on healing?
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The crafted gear gives you healing powers well above the item level but at the sacrifice of stamina. Put stamina on things like boots, maybe 6 to all stats on the chest. Build a stamina set and use outfitter or itemrack to change gear when you are at a point where it is more important to have health than strong heals; the shade in Kara is an example where stamina is much more important than healing since he will focus fire on low health targets.
Over time your gear upgrades will not make a big difference on your +heal but will give you the other stats needed. Changing to the tier 5 set will not sound that great if all you compare is healing, but you'll be alive a lot more since there are a lot of times where you will only have 10 to 20% of your 8-10k health left and would have died in the PMC/Whitemend.
Over time your gear upgrades will not make a big difference on your +heal but will give you the other stats needed. Changing to the tier 5 set will not sound that great if all you compare is healing, but you'll be alive a lot more since there are a lot of times where you will only have 10 to 20% of your 8-10k health left and would have died in the PMC/Whitemend.
Holy priests are just generally low on hp, esspecially early on. The first set of gear a holy priest generally gets is primal mooncloth, where none of the peices have stam. The good thing about kara is all fights but shade are easily survivable with good playing.
You can get a few pvp peices to sub in on fights like shade where you need some more hp, i still do this now and them. There is no reason to socket or enchant your normal healing gear with stam. As you get T4 you will gain a little more stam and so on to t5 and t6.
As a newly geared priest entering kara I only had about 5.5 hp unbuffed, but i had no problem getting through all the fights. Now i have 7.5k unbuffed though i still need to sub in 2 peices of glad gear to get up to 10k buffed for certain fights. The good thing is my gear allows this since I already have 2040 healing and 227 mp5 while casting. In pre kara gear putting on glad gear will seriously hinder you.
Best thing about having low hp is you become way more situationally aware. You're the first out of nightbanes ashes, aran's blizzard, and so on. This will help you in later encounters when no hp will help you, but you will notice the people that are slow are the people with a lot of hp. Bascially game play > stam, imo.
You can get a few pvp peices to sub in on fights like shade where you need some more hp, i still do this now and them. There is no reason to socket or enchant your normal healing gear with stam. As you get T4 you will gain a little more stam and so on to t5 and t6.
As a newly geared priest entering kara I only had about 5.5 hp unbuffed, but i had no problem getting through all the fights. Now i have 7.5k unbuffed though i still need to sub in 2 peices of glad gear to get up to 10k buffed for certain fights. The good thing is my gear allows this since I already have 2040 healing and 227 mp5 while casting. In pre kara gear putting on glad gear will seriously hinder you.
Best thing about having low hp is you become way more situationally aware. You're the first out of nightbanes ashes, aran's blizzard, and so on. This will help you in later encounters when no hp will help you, but you will notice the people that are slow are the people with a lot of hp. Bascially game play > stam, imo.
As a Holy priest you will always have low stam especially when you first start out. As you build up the other pieces around your set it will slowly raise. However, it never really gets very high. I'm in full epics now and I only have 6k unbuffed. Stam will never be your big stat and frankly it isn't that important. Mobs in heroics/raids are meant to hit very hard, if not things would be a cakewalk for a well geared tank. Mobs will almost always be able to 2 and 3 shot you so teamwork is more important than worrying about your HP.
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I had only 8K buffed through all of KZ and starting ZA. I was very glad everytime the electrical storm picked me.
You will normally suffer from lack of Stam until you get ZA or T5 gear. I would bring some PvP gear if you are worried about your health to much on certain fights. I had to use my PvP gear the first time I fought Akil'zon.
You will normally suffer from lack of Stam until you get ZA or T5 gear. I would bring some PvP gear if you are worried about your health to much on certain fights. I had to use my PvP gear the first time I fought Akil'zon.
Get PvP gear for when you need the stamina. Our best priest has been running around TK and SSC with under 7k fully buffed, and switches out a couple PvP pieces and gets Kings when we have a fight that need 8k. You'll be low on hp until you fully replace PMC, which doesn't happen until half way through T5.
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I am not a serious fan of pvp. I mean as Healers in BG or disc spec support priest does not give us much honor points... I mean i tried farming honor doing bg after bg one whole day... the estimate was 10k honor but when the honor was updated i only got 6k honor, kind of sucky. At this rate, farming the WHOLE 5 days could have easily gotten me like the entire primal mooncloth set (which i did). And my close encounter with a Gladiator's salvation equalvalent mace in Kara only confirmed the fact BG takes way to long to farm.
And most horrifyingly, priest with low hp die more often in raids and are often blamed for wipes simply because "The Healer Died". And for example, after fading the tank still fails to generate enough threat, we get aggroed and whacked to death in 2 hits. Not to mention lesser healing causing more death even even death of the tank.
In other words...
Tank dies = Healer fault
Healer dies = Healer fault
So is enchanting and socketting +hp and +stamina advisable or should i rather invest my gold and mats in improving my bonus healing further?
Interestingly in some raids my Hp gets buffed from several areas such as my own fort, blood pac and 10% stats increase making my 5.5k hp into 7k+ hp which is pretty awesome. Throw in a shield and it becomes 8k. The only thing i can do now is macro a target self shield when i anticipate aoe damage or even aggro.
Edited, Feb 1st 2008 10:14pm by healslut
And most horrifyingly, priest with low hp die more often in raids and are often blamed for wipes simply because "The Healer Died". And for example, after fading the tank still fails to generate enough threat, we get aggroed and whacked to death in 2 hits. Not to mention lesser healing causing more death even even death of the tank.
In other words...
Tank dies = Healer fault
Healer dies = Healer fault
So is enchanting and socketting +hp and +stamina advisable or should i rather invest my gold and mats in improving my bonus healing further?
Interestingly in some raids my Hp gets buffed from several areas such as my own fort, blood pac and 10% stats increase making my 5.5k hp into 7k+ hp which is pretty awesome. Throw in a shield and it becomes 8k. The only thing i can do now is macro a target self shield when i anticipate aoe damage or even aggro.
Edited, Feb 1st 2008 10:14pm by healslut
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the estimate was 10k honor but when the honor was updated i only got 6k honor, kind of sucky.
Yes. It's bugged. It's been complained about in trade chats for the last month and a half. When you're online when the honor rolls over (about 2AM Pacific, I believe), not all of it is awarded, and the daily bg is counted twice in the estimate but once in actuality, and diminishing returns on kills aren't counted in the estimate.
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And my close encounter with a Gladiator's salvation equalvalent mace in Kara only confirmed the fact BG takes way to long to farm.
You're not after the S1 weapons, you're after the S1 armor, and for no reason beyond the stamina. Or the S3 offset pieces. Not something you're going to use as actual raiding gear.
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And most horrifyingly, priest with low hp die more often in raids and are often blamed for wipes simply because "The Healer Died".
This shouldn't be happening except for a handful of fights - Shade's Pyro, Zul'jin, Illhoof's Sacrifice. If you're dying more often than that, either your tanks or your healers are doing something wrong.
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after fading the tank still fails to generate enough threat, we get aggroed and whacked to death in 2 hits.
If you pull threat from just healing, your guild has bigger problems than you dying. Much, MUCH bigger problems than you dying.
Go for +healing, get a set of gear for stamina for specific fights. The only fights you need at least 8k, up to Vashj/Kael, are Shade, Zul'Jin, and Doomwalker, with being very useful on Illhoof, Eagle, and Kazzak.
Also, I missed this the first time, but
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I've heard tales of priest with 10k hp, but does the 10k hp a disc spec that compromises on healing?
Those priests are doing arena. And dear god are they tough to kill. Disc priest + SL/SL lock are a nightmare, because they won't ******* die. But their healing in raids is about on par with a shadow priest's.
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