So what comes after the pre-raiding list?Follow

Hi Guys...

So I've found Aethien's pre-raid list to be my number one source for how to gear myself for Kara... thank you for that!! Although, this list isn't bad either; at least to get an idea of what you have to look forward to after Kara (for SV hunters anyway...).

But now I find myself wondering... "ok... now what?" I know that, for the most part, the same ideas will hold true once you move into higher-end raids. But does anything change?

For example, as a SV hunter, is there a point where we would favor AP over agility? I would assume not, since agi scales better than AP, from what I've read. But maybe there's some threshold where it stops to scale as well?

I remember seeing some info about that specific topic somewhere in the past several months that I've been reading about hunters, but it would be nearly impossible for me to find now (I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was somewhere right under my nose, though).

My point: should we consider compiling any theory-craft that applies to those of us that have began to move past Kara, or would that be redundant?

Thanks!

EDIT: I'd even consider taking up the project of compiling all this, as long as it would be deemed relevant and necessary by the community. If so, what specifically would you all like to see?

EDIT 2: Another question I've seen asked a lot on other forums is finding the optimum balance of crit/agility/hit. Since many people have indicated difficulty finding gear (past Kara) to keep them hit capped while looking for gear with highest agi, I would think this would be a topic of some interest.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 1:16pm by Rycerz

Wow... excellent and constructive response... thanks Katchii!

For the record, I wasn't asking anyone to do the math for me. Even if my math skills weren't that great, I know I could just plug my gear choices into Cheeky's spreadsheet, pick the weapon/gear combos that give me the highest DPS, and be done with it. Instead, I was asking whether it's necessary to compile whatever existing theory-craft is already available out there.

At any rate, I'm not looking to engage in any type of "mommy help me with my math" debate here... if there's no need for such a thread then so be it... and that's the last I'll respond to such a comment.

EDIT: Added some apparently necessary clarification.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 1:09pm by Rycerz

Rycerz, if you are looking for gear recommendations past Kara, just go onto Kaliban's Loot Lists, and pick look at whatever gear comes from whatever raid, then go here to see what gear is better than what you have now. Actually, I'm surprised that nobody here mentions the latter site very much, as it is informative, and really helps pre-Kara when weighting decisions on Aethien's list.

Nothing changes excpet the switch from AP to Agility gems and enchants once you hit a tooltip DPS of 300+. Everything else stays the same, you're numbers just get bigger as you get better gear.

This change is because, as you and I have already stated, agility scales better with Raid buffs.

There really isn't some magic number for anything else, and it's not anymore complicated than that.

You really shouldn't do this.

Tooltip DPS has nothing to do with your effective DPS unless you're auto shot-AFK:ing.

AP will increase the damage of each of your abilities (Spare for Multi-Shot, perhaps) by more than agi will even at past 300 TTDPS.

Edit: Link to prove it.

Edited, Feb 3rd 2008 12:30am by Utarius