Logical Fallacy - Appeal to AuthorityFollow

because its just a game.

I find the idea of a Ret paly in pve intriguing, but I have yet to see one do well enough to warrant a raid spot...

That being said, in the 3v3 format, Ret PLD are becoming a force to be reckoned with. Mock them at your own risk.

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 6:56pm by Tyrandor

BT and hyjal is above kara level as far as I'm informed, or did I get something wrong here? Ret palla in endgame (who imo needs to get a bigger manapool)

Does a above 2k ret palla count as being above 1650? (his 2s team is with a shockadin, playing for fun) Ret palla above 2k rating

Reasons enough? I've not even found the best PvE palla for you there, though he is one of them, but I think I nailed it in PvP. You question should be: "To the bad players of wow who have close to 0 understanding of your class: Why should I take you seriously?" Answer to that would be, you shouldn't, but you should open your eyes and stop being so prejudicing. Oh, and to answer your "LAWL ret" I'll say - "LAWL HOLY IN 2s"

Ahhh but I can link Holy Pallies with better arena scores and better BT gear!

Alas the point was missed, I was making fun of those who appeal to authority and also the scrub ret pallies of this forum who have extremely limited end game experience, all at the same time.

I should find a smarter audience.

Taking me seriously will make hair grow on your chest and increase your libido.

Studies were done to prove the truthiness of that claim, they all came back positive.

could this post be about me? dear bodhisattva, i am not gay. i appreciate the flattery, but we are not going to work. please understand this. ty.

That's too many fallacies that the human mind can comprehend.

/brainhemorrage

The point of my post was not to say that ret is THE best specc out there, just that you were wrong, and I think I proved my point suffieciently. You said ret pallies haven't got above 1650 in arenas - I proved they had. You said they hadn't progressed past kara - I proved they had. Your defence? instead of admitting defeat you go: "But there are holy pallas out there in better gear wha wha wha" Gz to them - but you are still wrong, ret has gone all the way to endgame, take your defeat like a man, would you?

Oh and lay back on the "I'm smarter than you" thing - you don't wanna get me started there. And then again, personal attacks are so utterly childish.

Og ja Mazra, jeg er vældig dansk, og stolt af det ;) Hele Conciliatrix er faktisk dansk.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 4:53am by krqllebqlle

You're not though.

But it comes back to the same argument. Quite a few of us who have progressed deeper into the end game have seen Ret. We have quietly hoped that with the recent changes that it might flesh out to be something more than what it is. It hasn't. No matter how much gear you throw on it, its still about as useful as a crit chicken. Which means roll Holy or Prot if you want a raid slot and hope some day people like you enough to let you raid as ret.

PvP Ret is sucking less and with the rise of the hybrid it is holding its own in 3v3's and beyond but still it needs the gear to be useful and right class balance with it. Which looking at some of the forum ret pallies scores seems like they havent gotten yet.

Yet you try to have an honest discussion about it and some scrub who has never gotten anywhere in end game links a guy in armory as if that one guy is representative of the class and somehow on the same level that they are.

So who is right? The scrubs making a lot of generalized statements coming from a position of ignorance since they have never reached either top end game but rather point to the few exceptions who have, or the holier than thou 'look at my Medallion of Karabor' people who are fed up with talking on what they percieve to be another level and go 'lawls ret'. Either way its a ****** way to handle it, but since I have my BT attune I will side with those people since I've spent too many threads slogging through the tripe the average ret scrub on this boards puts out there.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 7:52am by bodhisattva

Which is it, Bodhi? ********* or retards? You pick.



/signed

Once everyone here with a rating higher than Scholar has had their little e-flex, we should get back to serious, rational discussion about how to play paladins well. Paladins. Not healadins, or tankadins. We're part of an entire class here, and all this...prejudicial factional bullsh*t is making us look like total ********

edit: silly censors getting in the way of my Tycho quote.

Edited, Jan 31st 2008 9:07am by zepoodle

It's this kind of pointless bull that I was talking about in my thread from yesterday.

Bodh, I used to have respect for you. But this post was so childish that it hardly deserves a response.

There are sucky players of every race, class and spec. It shouldn't matter where ANYONE is in comparison to another. All are different. Some have more expereince than the other, some have better gear.

This is a game. The choices you make in this game do not largely affect or portray you in real life.

Rwar Bodhi. Wanna come over and comb my chest hair?

Just to point out while there are no "drops" in Kara that are "Paly tanking" drops, you start getting Tier gear, and then some plans from SSC/TK. Also the Badges received in Kara can go toward great Paly tanking pieces, but yea, it is lacking when compared to Warrior gear.