Jeebar wrote:
Your guess of 26-30% crit and 1500-2000 AP in cat form is weak sauce for heroics
Yeah, after I writed it down I realized that this was way too low, since I'm 66 and almost with that numbers. But I decided to leave it be, since whatever number I put there would be a guess anyway.
Jeebar wrote:
With all due respect: "save it." You're not close enough to this content to say you don't see what the problem is. And "heroic" does not equate to "X levels harder than base level of instance" such that Heroic Ramps is 10 levels easier than Heroic Mech. They're all tuned to be difficult for 70's and all require very good gear and technique
No problem, it was more of a guess than anything again. You got to be wrong before be right, right?
Maybe I wrote in a way that sounded bad, but wasn't really my intention. But thanks for the input, nevertheless. It's important stuff to know.
JeeBar wrote:
Brisin wrote:
For example, Ramparts that you mention. I'm pretty sure that when I'm level 70 I can solo, if not it all, almost everything on it.
Uuuhhhh, no.
I meant the normal one, not the Heroic, of course. At least, I have heard some people claming that and I thought I could do it too, since I'm not a bad player for my class (I think that I'm actually quite good, but that's another point). Of course they could be lying, thus my assumption would be total failure, but I just based my claim on what I heard and read before.
selebrin wrote:
To understand the scale of heroics: You haven't fought them yet, but imagine a level 70 instance like Black Morass, Steam Vaults, etc. These are about as hard for a fresh 70 as Scholomance or Stratholme were in the old days (if you played then).
I didn't played before BC was released, but I did played those instances before venturing at BC, just to tale a look at them. The PUG I went with had lots and lots of trouble. If I'm not mistaken, we didn't finished it, so I can quite understand this. Not entirely, but quite.
selebrin wrote:
Minimum gearing? It really depends. A good tank can make up for a poorer healer, and vice-versa. With a good healer behind me, I have seen the two of us carry three sub-par dps through heroics, as long as they can hit the right target (though that pisses me off, see previous paragraph). Keep an eye out for good gear, a list like at www.emmerald.net can be invaluable for this (some unassuming quests have rewards that last a very long time)
I use emmeral list a lot. I even made a search and posted a list of "equip-to-have-before-next-expansion", since I don't think I will have time to raid before the expack comes, due to personal commitments. This is the link to my list: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=6;mid=1201529069245959549;num=0;page=1
selebrin wrote:
The best way to find out if you're ready is to try it. When you get to 70, grab some friends (you don't want to subject strangers to this), head for a heroic, and see just how outclassed you are.
Will try to do that, but I don't think they will want to or even if it would be compared to a "real" situation. 90% of my guild is sitting on t5, but maybe this will show how low I would be. Gotta learn somewhere, somehow.
selebrin wrote:
As to the mechanics of a heroic? Same mobs, but harder. They're all 70+ elites, but tougher than that number would normally imply. Bosses in the 70 instances don't get beefed up too much, though some (like Murmur) have extra mechanics in fighting them. Bosses in sub-70 instances are brought up to that level, and some overshoot the mark (heroic Ramparts for example, will have a whole lot of firey death, and the Demon isn't fun with a lot of melee).
Thanks for this input.
Anyway, thanks everyone for the responses. Was more-or-less what I thought, but a litle harder, heh. I thought that, for example, the defense needed to be crit immune would be lower, since the mobs aren't 73 like raid bosses, but from what you say, the defense needed is quite the same.
Guess this is the "you had to be there" kind of thing. Well, I will soon and I will post my thoughts then.
Rate up for everyone who posted here. I asked and you answered in a right manner. Thanks a lot.
Edited, Jan 30th 2008 5:00pm by Brisin