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#1 Jan 29 2008 at 3:01 AM Rating: Default
allo im wondering what stats are most important to an enhance shammy PLEASE dont answer with stuff like Enhance Str > Crit = AP > Agility > hit as i dont understand WTF that means i just wanna know why all my dragonscale stuff is +int+sta isnt an enhance shammies main stat agi? i thought shammies were burst dmg? thats how ive always played mine (scince beta) and gotten along great i did take time off after BC came out though when the markets were insane :P just kinda wondering what i shoul be looking for in gear thanks
#2 Jan 29 2008 at 3:14 AM Rating: Good
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I'm sorry, but if you didn't learn in elementary school what <, >, and = means, for the sake of your future, I'd say spend less time playing WoW and more time studying basic things like this that you will need to get a job.

Harsh words, yes. But the information has been posted on this forum (even on this first page) and if we're seeing a duplicate thread because you don't know basic math symbols, that really annoys me.

Wikipedia, my friend.
#3REDACTED, Posted: Jan 29 2008 at 3:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thanks dude :) i know what they mean i dunno wtf Enhance Str > Crit = AP > Agility > hit means if your not gonna be helpful why post? just to shoot somebody down whos already looking for help? hmm? to make somebody feel dumb when theyve already come for help? dont be an *** either help or keep your trap shut
#4 Jan 29 2008 at 3:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm tryin' to be helpful. If you want to use this site as a resource, your best bet is to understand the way people explain things.

I'll put words where the symbols are and maybe you'll understand.

You should have more Strength (Str) points than Critical strike (+Crit) points, which should be even with Attack Power (AP) points, which should then be greater than the number of Agility (Agil) points you have, which is more important than Hit Rating (+hit).

Why is this? Strength = 2 Attack Power for Shamans. Agility is nice, but you'll get more mileage out of +crit in general, and Attack Power is hard to stack up as well as Strength on gear because you'd generally have to have 2x the amount of Attack Power to equal what you'd get out of Strength. Hit isn't all that important as we generally assume as Enhance you have points into Dual Wield Spec and hopefully Nature's Guidance in the Resto tree, which should provide you more than enough Hit Rating to get by on.

Yeah Crit is important... but a large percentage of the damage Enhance Shamans do is through their Windfury procs. Attack Power as well as the speed of your weapons (slower is better) makes a huge difference on the kind of damage you do. Getting those Windfuries to crit is icing on the cake. And as long as you have Flurry running most of the time (not hard if you can manage 15-20% crit) you shouldn't worry too much about critting all the time. Our Windfury is our crit. When it procs, you want it to proc HARD. If those procs happen to crit as well, all the better.

This is all for the most part redundant information listed all over here.

So I've explained it all in words. I'll leave you with a few pieces of advice:

Dual Wield as soon as you can, with 2 weapons over 2.4 second swing time if you can help it. DONT spring for that dagger with a few more DPS but is a half second faster, you'll actually do less DPS, I guarentee it. Keep your crit at 15% or so, and put everything else into strength and attack power. Remember that with Mental Quickness, that Str and AP will translate into +spell dmg for heftier shocks. Always use WF on both weapons. Stormstrike is your BEST friend. Follow up on SS with an Earth Shock for bonus damage and let your LS plant an extra couple damage too with the nature damage buff. Only shock when you need to, you should always keep enough mana for a good heal.

Edited, Jan 29th 2008 6:46am by Elecktrofreak
#5 Jan 29 2008 at 3:50 AM Rating: Default
was that so hard :P thank you one other question if i may why do shammies go dragonscale working it they go enhance all the dragonsacle stuff ive seen is all +int+sta your ssaying str is our most important stat
#6 Jan 29 2008 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Can't really answer that one... Int and Stam are useful for Elemental and Resto Shamans in PVP but any Enhance focusing on those stats probably is working some kind of suicide build.
#7 Jan 29 2008 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
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What stats you need largely depends on your play style.

In general as an enhancement shaman you should aim to maximise your 'white damage' caused by your AP (Attack Power). The best source of AP is STR (Strength) as we get 2 AP from each unit of STR.

You should also aim to increase your chance to crit, this can be done by increasing your AGI (Agility) or your Crit Rating. Many of our best Shaman abilities are triggered by Critical hits.
Increase your Intellect if you cast a lot and find yourself out of mana continuously.

So to recap:

STR/AP > AGI/Crit > STA > INT > SPI

Or in ENGLISH

First look for items with

Strength & Stamina & Crit Rating (e.g Of the Soldier Suffix)
then,
Agility & Stamina & Attack Power (e.g Of the Bandit Suffix)
then,
Strength & Stamina (e.g Of the Bear Suffix)
then,
Strength & Agility (e.g Of the Tiger Suffix)
then,
Agility & Stamina (e.g Of the Monkey Suffix)
then,
Strength & Intellect (e.g Of the Gorilla Suffix)
then,
Agility & Intellect (e.g Of the Falcon Suffix)
then
Strength & Spirit (e.g Of the Boar Suffix)
then,
Agility & Spirit (e.g Of the Wolf Suffix)

Hope this helps.

Edited, Jan 30th 2008 3:41am by dreddz
#8 Jan 29 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
thanks guys extremly helpful :) man ive been doing it wrong i guess :P ah well i cant say it hasnt worked :P but i guess ill stop looking for agi and start in on STR :P i still dont understand why enhance shammy LW's go Dragonscale though i mean does the armor being mail really mean more then stats?
#9 Jan 29 2008 at 12:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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#10 Jan 29 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
Actually there is other LW mail armor that helps enhancement shamans. Doesn't come to mind, but its up there and its rep rewards. I have a few of the recipes on my toon. When i get back on tonight i'll post and let you know. Even +int is good for enhancement as you'll run out of mana in a tight spot healing.
#11 Jan 29 2008 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Mazra wrote:
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#12 Jan 29 2008 at 10:00 PM Rating: Good
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The Dragonscale with Intellect and Stamina also come with Attack Power and Critical Strike rating. They are still very good for enhancement shaman at the 40s-50s.
#13 Jan 30 2008 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
I once saw an armorsmith enhance shaman...that was a wierd day. The mail armor smith chest is, I'm guessing, incredible for PvP. 6 second invulnerabitiy is pretty cool. But, the dragonscale set is better in my opinion.
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