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#1 Jan 29 2008 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
Is Enhance worthwhile at end game and more importantly are there guilds out there that will accept you?......just wanting to know if its worth levelling mh shammy who I really like or whether i should stick to my lvl 22 Holy paladin.... I am wanting to play Holy at end game with the pally but i dont want to be helaer with the Shaman.........
#2 Jan 29 2008 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Life for a DPS Shaman goes like this: great up until 70, worthless in heroics, potentially great in Kara (if your guild has already satisfied all existing CC requirements), phenominal in 25-man content.

In the literal interpretation of "end-game", which is 25-man raid content, yes, DPS Shaman have a place. However, heroics is an extremely rough patch that's hard to wade through, and Kara can be as well.

In the end it really just depends upon the quality of the guild you may or may not be lucky enough to get into.
#3 Jan 29 2008 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Get an enhance shaman into a melee group in a raid, and he's well worth having for the sake of the DPS of the group. Improved Weapon Totems and Improved Enhancing Totems can really drive DPS when you have Windfury and Strength of Earth totems down.

The problem is tho that most raids would probably rather have you in a caster and healer group as Resto with Mana Tide, and an Earth Shield on the MT.

But IMO, there are enough Resto Shamans out there and few enough Enhancement at 70 that hopefully your raid has a Resto shammy already squatting with the casters so you can chill in with the Melees as Enhance.

So yeah, its basically down to whether your guild is willing to let you fulfill that role or not. If they already have some great Resto Shammies, and understand what you can bring to the table for the Melees as Enhance (the trouble is that many don't), you could have a very fulfilling life with your Enhance Shaman.
#4 Jan 29 2008 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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my guild is literally dying for a well geared/played ehancement shaman right now. No one seems to fit the bill though :(
#5 Jan 29 2008 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
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electricwizard wrote:
my guild is literally dying for a well geared/played ehancement shaman right now. No one seems to fit the bill though :(


WTB more guilds out there with that sort of understanding.

Fortunately for me, my guild is cool with me being whatever spec as long as I perform the role well. I'm lucky to have them.
#6 Jan 31 2008 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Make sure you stick with what your doing. Once you have "set" yourself as a good DPS/Healer it is hard to switch sometimes. Either from not having the gear, or your guild just doesn't want to lose you at the role you play well.

For example, I am a Resto Shaman. My guild has multiple Resto shamans but lack in the Elemental/Enhancement Shaman department. I keep telling them to allow me to switch, but to quote them "We just can't lose a great healer for a DPS".

DPS are a dime a dozen, until you hit 25 man raids you will have an extremly hard time finding a spot on any team.


EDIT: I am a Scholar?????????




Edited, Jan 31st 2008 9:42pm by Tobiasmm
#7 Feb 10 2008 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Life for a DPS Shaman goes like this: great up until 70, worthless in heroics, potentially great in Kara


lol.

Gaudion, you have some great posts, but you are so down on shaman sometimes. Considering I'm usually top at 30-40% of grp dps in heroics, can offheal in place of CC, heroism for easy boss kills, buff the party...I very much doubt that shaman are worthless in heroics...

Same goes for Kara, though the dps lead is much lower % wise with other geared folk, I'm still top dps.

Granted I'm nearly full epics, but they are the crafted LW set and heroic/badges gear, so not that great. I'm elemental, but I'm now gearing for enhancement.

Point is, dps shaman are great for heroics and kara, as well as 25-mans. Granted, for heroics if you have a decent tank or a couple CC it makes things easier. But I was 3-man'ing heroic bot with 2 pally's the other day :) Get a pally tank and some purples and you'll have no worries.

Enhancement is an underplayed spec at 70 and some guilds will die to have a windfury bot in their group lol. That's why I'm gearing up :)
#8 Feb 10 2008 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Onogg wrote:
I very much doubt that shaman are worthless in heroics...


I believe Gaudion means in comparison to other classes. The utility that shaman bring is not at its apex in a non-raid situation with proper class-grouping, and shaman bring no CC. Heroics are all about CC.
#9 Feb 10 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Raglu wrote:
Onogg wrote:
I very much doubt that shaman are worthless in heroics...


I believe Gaudion means in comparison to other classes. The utility that shaman bring is not at its apex in a non-raid situation with proper class-grouping, and shaman bring no CC. Heroics are all about CC.

That's pretty much it and anyone who says otherwise is either used to running in full Tier 4-6 or is selling something.

Your damage means precisely jack in heroics. You could be doing 100% of your party's damage and it still would not matter one bit more. Heroics are all about the tank's gear, the heals, and the CC. DPS is by far the least important thing on the table.

Kara, likewise, has certain CC requirements. Thankfully, it's much more forgiving than heroics, only two of your five DPS really need CC, which is why DPS Shaman can get in, but only if and only after those CC requirements are met. If your raid had, for example, a Rogue, a Fury Warrior, a Balance Druid, and a Shadow Priest DPS'ing, and their choice was either you or another Shadow Priest... they're going to take the Shadow Priest because they want that shackle. Doesn't matter how much better your damage is than that Priest's, it doesn't even begin to factor into the equation.
#10 Feb 10 2008 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Sadly thats true. Guilds are going to take CC over good DPS when picking for spots.

Good thing is though theres rumor of Shaman's getting CC sometime in the near future. I bet it wont be applicable to Karazhan though. (I.E. Mage's Polymorph)

Many folks dont realize the buff that Enhancement can bring to raids. I do agree to the Heroic's though, CC is needed. Some heroic's need 3 CC, so when your trying to run one of those your SoL. But some only need 2 and maybe you can squeeze in that 5th slot.
#11 Feb 11 2008 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
I honestly don't see what the problem is with shamans and kara. My guilds team 4 has 3 shaman (2 elemental, 1 enhancement) and they were the first to down nightbane, and netherspite.
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