PvP Gems for Glad GearFollow

Hey guys,

Once i get my glad gear i was planning on putting these gems in:

Red Socket: Balanced Nightseye x4, +8AP, +6STAM
Yellow Socket: Mystic Dawnstone x2, +8 Res
Meta Socket: Swift Skyfire Diamond x1, +24AP, Minor Speed

Are these good choices for PvP? Or should i be looking at something else?

Cheers

Is this for S1 stuff or higher?

What's your current hp at? Current Resilience?

Here's what I did:

Red: +24atk, +20atk, +16atk (for the rest)
Blue: +8atk/6sta *1, had to use one to get my metagem bonus, put it in a red socket.
Yellow: +4crit/6sta *1, +4resi/6sta*1, +10crit*1
Meta: 18STA, 5%stun resist.

I'm sitting at 11k hp and 411 Resilience right now, gemming for survability only can be an overkill.

In red goes +16 AP
In yellow goes +8 AP + 4 Crit

You don't socket stam and resil, because if you're getting hit you're screwed anyways. You learn to use Evasion x2, Vanish x2, CloS, Kick, Stuns, Gouges, and LoS if necessary. The whole thing of "socket stam/resil until 10k health/400 resil" is crap. You're better off spending time in BG's to get the gear in the first place than grinding for stam/resil gems, then grinding again for ap/crit.

Let's look at common lineups:

Lock/Rogue - This is where stam/resil is useful, but will rarely be the difference between win/loss. Win/Loss hinges on Lock and rogue coordinating CC. You need DPS to down the target before the CC runs out.

Priest/Rogue - It's a mana war, one your priest should win. You play defensive with stuns until the healer is OOM... which means you don't need resil/stam as much.

RMP - Rogue generally isn't focused. At worst it will be just one rogue on you if it's vs RLP or RLD. If the rogue IS focused, you have enough moves to get away (Evasion, Clos, Vanish + mage's frost slowing people down). Don't talk about bleeds because if there's a warr you're going to be blowing him up and you don't need to worry about being focused.

RLP - Priest will be focused.
RLD - Rogue is the only one with any form of on-demand DPS when the enemy healer is cc'd. Gem Stam/Resil and you gimp that.

RMPLD - Rogue is never focused, as Mage Priest and even Druid (if the team has no cc) are sexier targets.

RMLPeSham 4DPS - Sham and Priest are guaranteed targets before the rogue.


Most Rogue combos are with a priest. If you can't escape with 2 vanishes, 2 evasions, a clos, 2 sprints, a trinket, Cheat Death, and most likely Pain Suprression/Heals, it's not going to matter what you gem.

Edited, Jan 29th 2008 1:05pm by Tromo

1) Resil and Stam do not help with healing that's quick recovery. Stam and resil help against getting bursted down and resil helps with overall damage taken.
2) If you're getting focused, your job is to stop the damage and make them switch targets, not tank it like a moron. That's why teams don't focus a rogue, because rogues can get away easily.
3) If, as a rogue, you cannot escape being focused. A) you stink and B) your team will lose.

If you can get to 2.2k+ ratings where rogues have skill, you'll understand. Don't believe me? Go look up any of the top rogues on your BG's gear. For example, I don't see a single resil gem in any of the tournament-rogue or merc gladiator-rogue's armories (Nitrana, Neilyo, etc). Here's a link to a few notable rogues if you're interested:

http://shadowpanther.net/pvprogues.htm

Gemming resil and stamina is just bad and the first sign that you don't know understand how a rogue is played in arena. Theo is in the 1500's for a reason.

Edited, Jan 29th 2008 3:51pm by Tromo

Yep. I don't play 5s or 3s. My partner for 2s is a feral druid who isn't very good at PvP.

Gems don't have an impact on your rating unless you're gemming horribly wrong.

I was really expecting an epic flame from Theo.... it's like I danced with a train and didn't lose an arm.

I was feeling nice.

It was a momentary weakness, don't expect it to happen again.