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#1 Jan 28 2008 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yup, I'm talking about you guys here on this forum ;-) (Nothing like buttering you up to get a quick response, huh ? ;->)

At some stage in my surge towards level 60, I realised that there was an epic level 57 BoP tailoring robe that I could craft for my mage. It took my warrior 6 15 minute bursts into LBRS to get the pattern to drop, and practically nothing to make the robe (my guildies all let me have the essences from the guild bank, and I had more than enough Runecloth on my own char at the time).

So, when I dinged level 57, I made and equipped Robe of the Archmage. Now I knew at the time that there are 2 chest pieces early on in HFP that could potentially replace it(Shadowcast Tunic and Goldweave Tunic), but my reasoning said that I would get either of these at maybe level 61 or 62, which would give me a good 5 levels with an Epic robe ... something that really kicks ***.

Now, I'm nearly there ... I have the quest to get the Goldweave Tunic, and the Shadoweave tunic is a quest or 2 away, and I've got to thinking.. are they really that much of a replacement ... they both have the same Crit, the tunics have 3 extra int, the one has 2 extra spell dmg, the other has 4 extra. The big thing though, the Robe has that neat little Mana restore use .. and it looks much better.

Now, I've heard that either tunic could quite easily last you until level 70 .. did a bit of checking, and it's almost the truth. This means, that the Robe could also conceivably last me to 70 as well.

The question is, would you consider the "on use" function to be better or worse than the slight stats increase (I'm looking specifically at the Shadowcaster's Tunic .. it appears to be the better of the 2). The next question is, what IS available to upgrade these items before level 69 Rob of the Crimson order seems like a likely replacement.

I intend crafting the spellfire (or frozen shadoweave... not yet decided on my final spec) at level 70, so there's my replacement at that level.

Apologies for the verbosity of this post, but I battle intensely to cut my explanations short sometimes ;-)
#2 Jan 28 2008 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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i'm still wearing the shadowcast tunic at 67. i did a search, and found nothing better for spell dmg. i like the crit rating, too.

i don't think i'll be getting a robe of crimson order, since all my other gear keeps getting spell hit on it. shadowcast tunic 'til 70, i guess!


#3 Jan 28 2008 at 10:30 AM Rating: Default
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http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?source=live;witem=22496 would be almost equal to Robe of the Crimson Order. Its only a level 60 item too! "gasps"

Edited, Jan 28th 2008 1:31pm by Killerheals
#4 Jan 28 2008 at 10:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you're almost done making Robe of the Archmage, keep it. It's a few stat points sacrifice for the on-use effect, as well as much better in aesthetics. Use that until 70 until you find something semi-significantly better.



...and why did you link Frostfire, Killerheals, a T3 piece that would take loads and loads more effort to get?
#5 Jan 28 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks Raglu, sorry, but I think I misled you .. I already have the Robe of the Archmage (have had it since level 57, am 61 now ;->), and yeah, I'm leaning heavily towards keeping it ... that on-use has saved my butt on more than a handfull of occasions.

wrt the T3 piece linked ... I felt it better not to comment ... it's not really a piece on the same level as we are discussing (wrt the ease of getting it)
#6 Jan 28 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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I kept http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=7515 for over 10 levels for its on-use effect.

Isn't "semi-significant" an oxymoron?
#7 Jan 28 2008 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Isn't "semi-significant" an oxymoron?


No “semi” means half; you can have half significance with out being contradictory.
#8 Jan 28 2008 at 10:38 PM Rating: Good
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robertlofthouse wrote:
Now, I'm nearly there ... I have the quest to get the Goldweave Tunic, and the Shadoweave tunic is a quest or 2 away, and I've got to thinking.. are they really that much of a replacement ... they both have the same Crit, the tunics have 3 extra int, the one has 2 extra spell dmg, the other has 4 extra. The big thing though, the Robe has that neat little Mana restore use .. and it looks much better.


Stamina is what you're overlooking. As a fire mage, having a bit extra when getting further into Outland was not trivial(would have been less needed as a frosty, but still useful).
#9 Jan 28 2008 at 11:35 PM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
robertlofthouse wrote:
Now, I'm nearly there ... I have the quest to get the Goldweave Tunic, and the Shadoweave tunic is a quest or 2 away, and I've got to thinking.. are they really that much of a replacement ... they both have the same Crit, the tunics have 3 extra int, the one has 2 extra spell dmg, the other has 4 extra. The big thing though, the Robe has that neat little Mana restore use .. and it looks much better.


Stamina is what you're overlooking. As a fire mage, having a bit extra when getting further into Outland was not trivial(would have been less needed as a frosty, but still useful).


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