My life at 70 has been like this: Level 70 rogue main for everything from PvE to PvP. Level 70 paladin PvP only, mainly because i dont have time to gear 2 different toons in PvE.
Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
So im done with it. Fed up. Tanking has been my favorite PvE role in this game since i tanked my first instance as a warrior several years ago. For some reason i never got around to making a tank "main", why i dont know.
Its time to dust off the paladin, put on my "tanking set" (lol can you call it that?) and head out to mid 60s+ instances and start over as a level 70 paladin. It will be 100% PuGs until i get geared enough to tank heroics for guildies. No raiding, 5 mans only.
Any guesses how long i last before i give up? lol...
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Welcome to the dark side. May your blades never dull.
pugs will eat you alive in about a month. ^^
But i hope they dont.
But i hope they dont.
KTurner wrote:
Any guesses how long i last before i give up? lol...
How do you measure eternity? You'll have a blast. Simply because paladins are an awesome class for 5-men and for the sheer strength of what the class can do in this kind of settings, you will make mediocre PUGs who would have wiped and given up with a warrior into average ones who clear the instance, and average PUGs into good ones who clear stuff with style.
I've had a couple of dreadful PUGs while holy, each and everyone with non-pallies or tankadins who played as if they were a warrior (which is worse than a subpar warrior tank). I don't think I've ever had a truly horrible PUG when I was tanking, however.
KTurner wrote:
My life at 70 has been like this: Level 70 rogue main for everything from PvE to PvP. Level 70 paladin PvP only, mainly because i dont have time to gear 2 different toons in PvE.
Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
So im done with it. Fed up. Tanking has been my favorite PvE role in this game since i tanked my first instance as a warrior several years ago. For some reason i never got around to making a tank "main", why i dont know.
Its time to dust off the paladin, put on my "tanking set" (lol can you call it that?) and head out to mid 60s+ instances and start over as a level 70 paladin. It will be 100% PuGs until i get geared enough to tank heroics for guildies. No raiding, 5 mans only.
Any guesses how long i last before i give up? lol...
sounds like a dear diary thread
Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
So im done with it. Fed up. Tanking has been my favorite PvE role in this game since i tanked my first instance as a warrior several years ago. For some reason i never got around to making a tank "main", why i dont know.
Its time to dust off the paladin, put on my "tanking set" (lol can you call it that?) and head out to mid 60s+ instances and start over as a level 70 paladin. It will be 100% PuGs until i get geared enough to tank heroics for guildies. No raiding, 5 mans only.
Any guesses how long i last before i give up? lol...
sounds like a dear diary thread
You and me both, man. Good luck.
The RuenBahamut of Doom wrote:
pugs will eat you alive in about a month. ^^
But i hope they dont.
But i hope they dont.
A month!? damn i give myself a couple days. lol
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How do you measure eternity? You'll have a blast. Simply because paladins are an awesome class for 5-men and for the sheer strength of what the class can do in this kind of settings, you will make mediocre PUGs who would have wiped and given up with a warrior into average ones who clear the instance, and average PUGs into good ones who clear stuff with style.
I've had a couple of dreadful PUGs while holy, each and everyone with non-pallies or tankadins who played as if they were a warrior (which is worse than a subpar warrior tank). I don't think I've ever had a truly horrible PUG when I was tanking, however.
I've had a couple of dreadful PUGs while holy, each and everyone with non-pallies or tankadins who played as if they were a warrior (which is worse than a subpar warrior tank). I don't think I've ever had a truly horrible PUG when I was tanking, however.
I have tanked sethek halls once, and it was pretty cool. The majority of my tanking was done on my warrior, so hopefully i wont tank like a warrior :P
To clarify, I'm not dissing warrior tanks, I'm dissing prot pallies who try to tank as if they were warriors, which is pretty much the deepest level of fail one can achieve.
Our mantra is CC= Constant Consecration.
Our mantra is CC= Constant Consecration.
Alastaironsiren wrote:
Our mantra is CC= Constant Consecration.
Only for the bad ones...
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pugs will eat you alive in about a month. ^^
But i hope they dont.
But i hope they dont.
sadly thats all i get is pugs. i'm only 64 but they still do ok for me. being that i've only been tanking ramps and bf due to haveing dial up but now taht i have cable hopeing to get better instances.
to op. nice always need more prot pallies.
KTurner wrote:
Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
At least you only had to respec... I re-rolled entirely. After drifting in and out of countless crappy end-game guilds, my friend and I got sick and tired of doing nothing but pugging with his Mage and my Elemental Shaman, so we re-rolled a tank (Warrior, him) and healer (Priest, me) so we can form our own parties for the entirety of the game.
Granted, I could have just healed on my Shaman, but... I find Shaman healing insufferably boring, much like Paladin healing. Druids are ok, but... healing with Priests is so much fun. They've just got so many options, and there's so much more to do even when you're just healing.
if you're rerolling a priest, go shadow until you reach 66 or 70 in outlands when you would need to respec to holy to heal instances. It's actually easy to do and worth your time for the extra dps when grinding.
Welcome aboard!!
May your shield never crack and your enemies hate you with a vengance (keep that agro!!).
Wow... you have so much spell damage!!!
My understanding is you only need about 200 to hold agro. I'm running lvl 66-67 instance and am finding that 150 is min to keep some good agro. Might help you while you are changing gear.
The Captian's stats are something I'm shooting for... (the almighty uncrush/crit)
Dodge 16.02
Parry 15.6
Block 24.8
(or some combo of the above)with miss and holy shield active, it's over the 102.4% you need.
I bet a barrel of rum that you don't leave Prot!
Edited, Jan 25th 2008 8:46pm by Simskin
May your shield never crack and your enemies hate you with a vengance (keep that agro!!).
Wow... you have so much spell damage!!!
My understanding is you only need about 200 to hold agro. I'm running lvl 66-67 instance and am finding that 150 is min to keep some good agro. Might help you while you are changing gear.
The Captian's stats are something I'm shooting for... (the almighty uncrush/crit)
Dodge 16.02
Parry 15.6
Block 24.8
(or some combo of the above)with miss and holy shield active, it's over the 102.4% you need.
I bet a barrel of rum that you don't leave Prot!
Edited, Jan 25th 2008 8:46pm by Simskin
Celcio wrote:
Alastaironsiren wrote:
Our mantra is CC= Constant Consecration.
Only for the bad ones...
I love how I got rated down for this.
Oh please, uber rating pally tanks, tell me why I'm wrong.
No, really. I mean it.
Celcio wrote:
Celcio wrote:
Alastaironsiren wrote:
Our mantra is CC= Constant Consecration.
Only for the bad ones...
I love how I got rated down for this.
Oh please, uber rating pally tanks, tell me why I'm wrong.
No, really. I mean it.
It's late, so I "think" I get your meaning here, but you're in fact right Celcio: constantly hitting Consecration isn't always the best thing to do. If you have only one or 2 mobs you're gonna oom yourself since you won't be taking much damage.
Whoever rated you down for that ... /eternal shame =P
I am very much a wow newb eventhough I have a 70 lock, and a 64 rogue (now a 35 pally), but I hardly ever saw a pally in instances until I hit the outlands. The first time ever was in shadow labs, had a pally tank and a pally healer. Going in, I was thinking oh good....this is going to be brutal (hey I admitted I am a newb ok). OMFG did we walk through that instance which started me on my pally path.
Now I'm a ret and leveling with a buddy who went prot, and I must say....I'm about to switch over to prot watching him take on 4,5,6 mobs and barely break a sweat.....though think I'll wait until I get crusader strike and really test out the ret then respec but man do they look fun.
Now I'm a ret and leveling with a buddy who went prot, and I must say....I'm about to switch over to prot watching him take on 4,5,6 mobs and barely break a sweat.....though think I'll wait until I get crusader strike and really test out the ret then respec but man do they look fun.
Maulgak wrote:
It's late, so I "think" I get your meaning here, but you're in fact right Celcio: constantly hitting Consecration isn't always the best thing to do. If you have only one or 2 mobs you're gonna oom yourself since you won't be taking much damage.
Pfft, if you're down to 1 or 2 mobs left, it's time to go pull the next group!
Biggest pull in-dungeon that I've had was in Shattered Halls, in the hallway of practicers. We pulled the last 6-pack of mobs (where you have to kill the one guy first or he summons reinforcements) and then our rogue got feared into a side room and pulled the 5-pack there. It was an epic battle, and only possible because we totally outgeared the instance. :)
"Celcio" wrote:
I love how I got rated down for this.
Oh please, uber rating pally tanks, tell me why I'm wrong.
No, really. I mean it.
Oh please, uber rating pally tanks, tell me why I'm wrong.
No, really. I mean it.
Rate up for yah, I got your back. =P
I think most early pallies think if they don't see a big flashy circle on the ground at all time they're not doing their job. I certainly needed to learn this myself when I switched back to prot and actually tanked stuff instead of AoE grinding.
Either way, no reason to rate someone down because they disagree with anothers method. Stemming from the fact that any pally that has gotten passed Kara will tell you the same thing as Celcio. =P
Think before you rate down plz, kaithx!
Some people are taking a joke way too seriously, methinks.
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Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
You JUST realized PvP in WoW is bad(bad/not-so-good, for the WoWfanboyz that say "OMG ITS SO COOL STFU!")?
Wow that took you a long while.
muffinyumyum wrote:
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Due to RL changes my time to play wow is much much more precious, and since the only PvP i do is 2v2 arena, sitting in queues for over 10 minutes a game for 3 minutes of fun is not going to happen anymore. Not to mention i don't like where PvP has headed for WoW. Mainly the addition of resilience and its impact on crit reliant classes.
You JUST realized PvP in WoW is bad(bad/not-so-good, for the WoWfanboyz that say "OMG ITS SO COOL STFU!")?
Wow that took you a long while.
ive always hated change, i thought i would give it a solid shot. played season 1 as a paladin, it was great. my 3v3 was in the upper 1800s. Unfortunately S1 arena meant **** in the grand scheme of things. so basically it only took me 1 season to realize how bad resilience made PvP.
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Biggest pull in-dungeon that I've had was in Shattered Halls, in the hallway of practicers. We pulled the last 6-pack of mobs (where you have to kill the one guy first or he summons reinforcements) and then our rogue got feared into a side room and pulled the 5-pack there. It was an epic battle, and only possible because we totally outgeared the instance. :)
biggest for me was two of them in brd so far. 2 groups of the roaming dwarfs by the rock named guy. the ones with officers and healers.
the other was the spot where there are all the dwarfs with the fast respawns and stuff. group was slowing down some for somereason and we got acouple groups on us. healer had soul stone and the angle thing. they used angle thing then soulstone then angle again. i barly lived and was only one alive. love being prot pally.
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Biggest pull in-dungeon that I've had was in Shattered Halls, in the hallway of practicers. We pulled the last 6-pack of mobs (where you have to kill the one guy first or he summons reinforcements) and then our rogue got feared into a side room and pulled the 5-pack there. It was an epic battle, and only possible because we totally outgeared the instance. :)
biggest for me was two of them in brd so far. 2 groups of the roaming dwarfs by the rock named guy. the ones with officers and healers.
the other was the spot where there are all the dwarfs with the fast respawns and stuff. group was slowing down some for somereason and we got acouple groups on us. healer had soul stone and the angle thing. they used angle thing then soulstone then angle again. i barly lived and was only one alive. love being prot pally.
Biggest pull in-dungeon that I've had was in Shattered Halls, in the hallway of practicers. We pulled the last 6-pack of mobs (where you have to kill the one guy first or he summons reinforcements) and then our rogue got feared into a side room and pulled the 5-pack there. It was an epic battle, and only possible because we totally outgeared the instance. :)
biggest for me was two of them in brd so far. 2 groups of the roaming dwarfs by the rock named guy. the ones with officers and healers.
the other was the spot where there are all the dwarfs with the fast respawns and stuff. group was slowing down some for somereason and we got acouple groups on us. healer had soul stone and the angle thing. they used angle thing then soulstone then angle again. i barly lived and was only one alive. love being prot pally.
...the center hallway & full left side of the Stockades. Was a long BG que time >.>
Hmm 3 days of prot, managed to go to mana tombs with an otherwise appropriately leveled party. got nothing but wife aggro about 3 quarters of the way through... Not sure i can even do the freaking instances to begin with. It took me a couple pulls to find my limits and after that it was a breeze. And FUN.
Yeah spelldamage happens when all your tank gear is PvP holy gear. lol
I do have more "tanking" gear, but the slight gain in defensive stats dont outweigh the huge stamina loss from my pvp gear.
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Wow... you have so much spell damage!!!
My understanding is you only need about 200 to hold agro. I'm running lvl 66-67 instance and am finding that 150 is min to keep some good agro. Might help you while you are changing gear.
My understanding is you only need about 200 to hold agro. I'm running lvl 66-67 instance and am finding that 150 is min to keep some good agro. Might help you while you are changing gear.
Yeah spelldamage happens when all your tank gear is PvP holy gear. lol
I do have more "tanking" gear, but the slight gain in defensive stats dont outweigh the huge stamina loss from my pvp gear.
So... when you've got a group of say... 6-8 mobs on you, what's wrong with having consecration up?
I usually start with 2 max rank consecrate followed by rank 1s. (I semi-permanently run with a group of aoe dps)
Admittedly, I've not even started on Heroics yet, much less raids. Is there a better way to be doing things? What am I doing wrong?
I usually start with 2 max rank consecrate followed by rank 1s. (I semi-permanently run with a group of aoe dps)
Admittedly, I've not even started on Heroics yet, much less raids. Is there a better way to be doing things? What am I doing wrong?
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