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#27 Jan 28 2008 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
Yeah - just the 35 is free. For your max FB crits, you need 5 combo points. OOC to proc, then wait for your energy to build up to 100 then FB.

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Ditto. Especially now that Pounce costs me 20 less energy thanks to my energytick watcher.


Damn you! Try playing from Australia with 400+ms latency. I just make sure the tick is just over half way and hope it works out about right. Dunno what Blizzard or the net are doing, my latency used to be 2-300 before.
#28 Jan 31 2008 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
Omg, I'm a fool o.O I hit 56 last night, so I've had mangle for almost a week. I was reading this forum, and I couldn't figure out why people were using mangle before shred. Until a ways down when Lorimath wrote
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Mangle not only increases bleed damage, it also increases Shred damage. Use Mangle immediately after pouncing.
Soooooo I went and looked at the tooltip, apparently for the first time, and now I'm changing my ways, lol. Just thought I'd throw this out there for everyone to laugh at my foolishness =p.

Smoky
#29 Feb 05 2008 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
Bah, that's nothing to laugh at... this is.
(granted, I shelved my Druid for 4 months... but still)

Use pounce for (blah blah)... Pounce then mangle (blah blah)

What's this Pounce that everyone is on about?

Gah! I'm lvl 61 now in Badlands. (4 lvls without Pounce with my Feral build)
Beat that for a laugh.
#30 Feb 05 2008 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Westborne wrote:
Bah, that's nothing to laugh at... this is.
(granted, I shelved my Druid for 4 months... but still)

Use pounce for (blah blah)... Pounce then mangle (blah blah)

What's this Pounce that everyone is on about?

Gah! I'm lvl 61 now in Badlands. (4 lvls without Pounce with my Feral build)
Beat that for a laugh.


Uhhh, unless I'm reading this wrong I can beat that for a laugh within your own post...

The Pounce that you learn at level 56 is rank THREE....you get the first rank of Pounce at level 36 which means you've been a feral druid without Pounce for half of your entire druidic existence. (way more than half when you consider how much longer levels take as you level up.)

And it's not part of a "build" per se, (which usually refers to your selection of talents) but rather a trainable attack that every druid gets, and in fact it's widely regarded as one of the key attacks that makes cat form start kicking infinite amounts of *** in the early to mid 30s.

Ouch.
#31 Feb 05 2008 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
ouch...
I'm not that bad of a Druid :)
I'm just old, that's all.

The mind, not what it used to be, you'll get there someday.
#32 Feb 12 2008 at 4:51 PM Rating: Decent
I think maybe I'm missing something here.

With the talent pounce stuns for a MAX of 4 seconds. The GCD is 1.5 seconds.
Which means that without an OoC proc there is no way to do 3 shreds. (my math is 1.5 * 3 = 4.5) and that assumes that you time the energy tick right.



I would say do pounce, shred, shed, If OoC procs do a third shred, then fff, then spam mangle.
#33 Feb 12 2008 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Leohat wrote:
I think maybe I'm missing something here.

With the talent pounce stuns for a MAX of 4 seconds. The GCD is 1.5 seconds.
Which means that without an OoC proc there is no way to do 3 shreds. (my math is 1.5 * 3 = 4.5) and that assumes that you time the energy tick right.



I would say do pounce, shred, shed, If OoC procs do a third shred, then fff, then spam mangle.

Catform GCD is only 1 second. Just like rogues.
#34 Feb 12 2008 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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Leohat wrote:
I think maybe I'm missing something here.

With the talent pounce stuns for a MAX of 4 seconds. The GCD is 1.5 seconds.
Which means that without an OoC proc there is no way to do 3 shreds. (my math is 1.5 * 3 = 4.5) and that assumes that you time the energy tick right.

I would say do pounce, shred, shed, If OoC procs do a third shred, then fff, then spam mangle.


Vaelorin covered cat form's 1 second GCD. You're right that without an OoC proc you can only squeeze in two attacks in the timespan of a Pounce. But your first attack after the Pounce should ALWAYS be Mangle once you have it...Mangle increases all bleed damage and damage dealt by Shred by 30%, so always Mangle ASAP to get max damage out of both Pounce's bleed and your Shred. Or both shreds if you get an OoC proc. : )

Pounce, Faerie Fire, Mangle, Shred, 2nd Shred w/ OoC, Mangle to 4 CP, Finisher

If you have trouble getting all that in to your opening, save Faerie Fire for later whenever you find yourself waiting for energy since it's free and/or get a energy tick timer like RogueFocus so you can Pounce just before your energy ticks, which effectively reduces the cost of that first Pounce by 20 energy.

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