EDITED: Pre-Kara Gear ListFollow

I'm shamelessly bumping this because we've had a few questions about it recently, and it's about 6 pages back and i don't feel like linking it every time somebody makes a gear thread.

I am in a pre-Kara situation with my youngest warrior alt, and I am seriosly considering if going for honor PvP gear is not making more sense than hunting instances.
Or maybe do that only after doing a few runs and seeing which pieces refuse to drop.

Anyhow, I am just signalling that the item choice base has grown.

Another ring option is this ring you can get from 50x Spirit Shards. If you're into farming rep or those instances already it's a nice use of the shards you pick up.

Band of the Exorcist
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=28553

+24 Stamina
Requires Level 67
Equip: Increases attack power by 34
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 16
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 11
Equip: Improves hit rating by 10

I would never spend badges on the neck, cloak, or rings. The neck off Attumen is almost a mirror image of the badge neck, and there are 3 rings from Kara (including the violet signet of the master assassin) that are better than the badge ring. Not to mention Drape of the Dark Reavers is one of the best rogue cloaks in the game.

The other thing is that the other badge pieces are such huge upgrades over anything else pre-Kara, that I would just badges to get one of those.

Nyn'jah's Tabi Boots, Bloodlust Brooch, or any of the other rogue leather badge items would be a much better choice than spending badges on the neck, ring, or cloak.

And yes, I realize this was a pre-Kara list, but I see no reason to spend 25 (?) badges on a neck piece that will give you 5 hit rating and 6 AP when the first boss in Kara drops one that's just as good.

Karazhan is kind of in the middle of heroics, progression-wise.

Certain heroics are much easier than Kara and certain heroics are much harder than Kara.

You should have no problem with a group in level 70 quest/instance blues and maybe crafted epics running Slave Pens, Underbog, Steamvaults, the Mechanar, Botanica, Black Morass, or maybe even Ramparts with the right group comp.

However, heroics like Shattered Halls, Shadow Labyrinth, the Arcatraz, Durnholde, and now Magister's Terrace require much better gear than the others. Groups in mostly epics are practically required for these heroics, not to mention needing almost perfect group comps to pull them off.

It is also of worth to note that Karazhan can basically be broken up into 2 sections. Everything up to Curator is fairly easy mode with the right group, whereas Curator is a gear check. However, if you can down Curator you probably have the gear to clear the rest of the instance. Most of the encounters after Curator are not nearly as gear dependant AND have some kind of gimmick that makes them easy.


Illhoof: 1-2 locks spamming SoC and a /target Demon macro make this fight almost trivial
Aran: 2-3 people who can spell interrupt make Aran a joke.
Netherspite: having people who know how to tank a beam make Netherspite easy
Chess: ZOMG Medivh cheated!!!
Prince: If you have the DPS to down Curator in 2-3 evos you have the DPS to down Prince, it's just about decent infernal placement
Nightbane: 2 priests to Fear Ward your tank make Nightane pretty easy.

Since when are level 70 quest/instance blues and crafted epics NOT pre-Kara gear?

Edited, Apr 10th 2008 11:39am by Bigdaddyjug

Farmed Kara every week for 4 months...didn't see it drop until month 5. 2 weeks after I picked up my badge neck. :P

Going to try tonight with the stats I listed above. My guild is doing single night farm runs so I think that I will be ok, although not the top of the DPS meter. Hopefully I will see some nice jewelry drop since that is where I am seriously lacking, aside from my sub par spec and BoE daggers. This weekend begins the honor grind for S1 daggers, unless I see some nice ones drop tonight.

shhhhh.... bump