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#1 Jan 21 2008 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
Wasn't sure what to make the title of my post, but its somewhat relative to what I have to say.

So the other day I was in Shatt and saw a warrior with 2 s1 swords and glad shoulders. I inspected him and saw that his spec was awkardly put together in a 26/35 hybrid build. I ask the guy if that works for him and he replies, "yeah, but its my PvE spec". WHOA! I thought to myself, because I actually thought he used that build as a pvp build, oh well. After much debate he claims to do 700-900 DPS with his build, the higher DPS being with an Enhancement Shaman throwing WF totem around.

I proceeded to doubt him and tried to be as nice as possible telling him the truth about him not being able to do that kind of DPS, until he said he does that in Normal 5 mans..and the catcher...Heroics and Kara. HA!

Personally I don't care if he can do that kind of DPS, but in the gear he's in and the spec, I dont see it being possible by anything short of a miracle. Below is the guys armory link.

Does anyone have any thoughts about this spec?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thaurissan&n=Brutikus
#2 Jan 21 2008 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh...I'm with you. I have my doubts. I mean, maybe, but he's missing some pretty key abilities. No imp. zerker, so he doesn't have that extra AP or the threat reduction from the talent, no rampage. His gear is decent, but not all that hot. Crit and AP are low, and he has 'too much' hit. ESPECIALLY for 5 mans. If he IS maintaining that kind of damage, he's still gimping himself, and would put out MORE if he specced properly.
#3 Jan 21 2008 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
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well, we have a fury warrior that has been messing with a similar build, 21/40. No weapon spec with imp berserker stance. He says he hasn't really noticed a difference in dps. I find it odd that he (the guy you linked) doesnt take imp heroic strike or imp overpower, and puts 3 points in imp cleave rather than filling out dw spec.

and he does have quite a lot of hit rating for his ap and crit.
#4 Jan 21 2008 at 11:58 PM Rating: Good
It's not that great.

It's not really godawful, but you're losing DPS (and threat reduction) compared to a more traditional 17/44/0. I thought about trying it with Sword Spec but chose life (threat reduction) instead.
#5 Jan 22 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Would you really need the threat reduction with the loss of all that AP though? 250 from rampage then a flat 10% off the top. When you add in all the AP/str buffs and take off the extra 10% you would be getting thats quite a big loss.
#6 Jan 22 2008 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, but justifying a bad spec with a nerf to stats is kind of circular logic. Lol
#7 Jan 22 2008 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I wasn't justifying it. I was saying that the threat reduction wouldn't matter because you won't be doing enough dps to reach the threat cap. Implying it was an enferior build.
#8 Jan 22 2008 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
Consider the fact that he uses DW every cooldown, how do you think his threat would be?
#9 Jan 22 2008 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Considering back when we still had DW in the fury tree and the extra AP from the later goodies, we still didn't have too big a problem with threat when we had salv and a good tank (let alone totem twisting). It still won't up his dps to the point where he will be pushing the threat cap.
#10 Jan 23 2008 at 6:26 AM Rating: Good
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PigeonMan wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts about this spec?


There is no possible way that with 1500 AP and just over 25% chance to crit in berserker stance that he could possibly hit his claimed level of DPS.

Also, if you feel like giving him advice, Weapon Mastery would be a better talent than Precision (Weapon Mastery will affect special attacks as well, and he's already hit-capped on yellow attacks from hit rating) I would offer a lot more advice but people who pick specs like that tend not to listen anyways.
#11 Jan 25 2008 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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[quote=PigeonMan]After much debate he claims to do 700-900 DPS with his build, the higher DPS being with an Enhancement Shaman throwing WF totem around./quote]

XD

you should tell him that the peak dps he can achieve during the execute phase is not his total dps during the entire encounter.

that being said, i used the traditional 17/44 spec with 2500 buffed AP/33% crit/138 hit, and still only managed 650 dps on a VR kill where i was present 99-100% of the time to dps. adding another 386 AP (~300 AP from BoK and 76 from gear) and 400 ArP would increase my total dps on that particular encounter to just under 700 dps. so, sorry Brutikus, but you're not hitting 700-900 dps with that build.

=) i would love to run anything with this guy and blow him away on the damage meters.
#12 Jan 25 2008 at 8:26 AM Rating: Decent
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No way he's pushing that kind of DPS. I'm similarly geared and my AP self buffed with BS and Rampage is about 2k, so 500 more and the most I've done is 601 DPS throughout a whole instance(talking heroics).
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