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IMHO: Agility > Strength. Big time.

With the 2.3 change to HotW which made it so each Agility is now worth 1.1 AP (up from 1.0) and each Strength is worth 2.2 AP (down from 2.4) Agility rocks Strength's socks off. For the reasons you rattle off I'd actually err on the side of neglecting Strength in favor of Agility. When I was leveling I aimed for an Agility:Strength ratio of 2:1 and it worked out well for me.

If you're up for some serious reading, check out http://druid.wikispaces.com/AthinirasCorner#tocAthinirasCorner2, specifically http://druid.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/toskk_ap_crit5.jpg. This article and chart show what you should aim for based on your current AP and crit.

They're geared at 70s so it only goes down to 1700 AP and 25% crit, but according to this, Agility trumps Strength until you hit a ridiculous level of crit. For example, at my AP of 2600 it says Agility > Strength up until Crit of 45.5%. I assume the line extends downward into lower level AP/crit ratio with similar logic. The message jives with my opinion, but that crit % is so much higher than my own 33.5% (which I thought was respectable) that I fear I'm mis-understanding the chart...I'd welcome reinterpretation or validation.


Edited, Jan 21st 2008 1:30pm by JeeBar

Just to clarify, you mean crit % right?

Yes, exactly.


Well, str is important, but sta is more. I would even say agility is as importante as str (when you are as bear) because of dodge%, but I can't remember the actual numbers.

Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 9:28am by Brisin

For tanking you want some strength to help build threat, but once you get to outland I wouldn't focus too much on it (get a nice staff with +Feral AP), also once you get mangle that helps with fast threat generation.

I'd focus on stamina, agility and armour for tanking at lower levels (i.e. pre-70), with maybe a few strength items if I had agro problems.

As mentioned above the changes to HotW greatly nerfed strengths relative standing compared to agility.

Don't bust your *** or spend good gold to do that, though...with a contribution of 2 AP per point, strength is still a totally solid stat for ferals and you'll level through gear pretty quickly thanks to the 2.3 leveling acceleration. I'd just go forward thinking of agility>strength as your golden stats in cat and stamina>agility as your golden stats in bear. And...since you're on a PvP server, don't be shy about stacking stam in your cat set like teacake said. The "of the Bandit" rogue gear rocks for cat soloing with it's agility, AP, and stam.


You need respectable AP of course, but between the 30% threat boost of the form itself, the 15% threat-boost of Feral Instinct, and the threat bonuses of our attacks (175% of damage for Maul, for example) we rarely have trouble holding mobs and don't need to be pouring out lots of damage to keep them stuck to us. Agility increases crit % which helps with dps of course, but also with rage generation (with Primal Fury talent), and self-healing (with Improved Leader of the Pack). And on the defensive side of the ball it helps avoidance by increasing dodge %.


All that's gonna happen is your druid is going to get more and more fun...enjoy.


Please do, if only to get your sig some more airtime...that line cracks me up every time. I'm gonna type it up nice and big, print it out, and tape it to the door to my office at work.

Excellent. The pic of Jack always makes me smile.

I never bothered spending the money on it, although I was tempted several times. I had Furor anyway. My policy is generally not to buy blues while leveling.