Keeping weapon (staff / 2H mace) leveled?Follow

Here's something I noticed the other night. My staff skill was way under leveled, so I looked at my crit % (it was like 6.05% or something, in caster and bear form), well I beat on a few green mobs for a little bit... gained about 5 weapon points, took my caster % up to like 6.20, it did the same thing to my bear form crit %.

So we need to keep our melee weapon skill topped off for the Max. crit %?

The sticky says


However, I did notice a increase in Crit % when I leveled the melee skill.

So am I correct in thinking we should keep it skilled up?

Not to start a flame fest here, but no I did not. I even wrote the % down on paper then checked it when in caster and bear form... the % both went up as my melee (current weapon skill) went up.

I'm stuck at work, and my staff is still way underleveled, I'll triple check that when I get home tonight. Just asking if that's something everyone knew already.

Edited, Jan 21st 2008 12:28pm by GYFFORD

I'll have to double check it tonight. I did write down the %. It was the same crit % in any caster and bear form.

I guess I should have checked again later that night, I was looking/writing all that down during the Packers game.

I'm only familiar with Warrior/Hunter and now Druid, but yes. Every time I'd get a new weapon for my warrior, I would watch the Crit % just shoot up when I'm skilling my weapon up. I actually made a game out of the end % it would end up at, trying to guess the total... Guess I just needed some fun while skilling up weapons (Hunter bows/xbow/gun really goes fast, all other classes suck). Oh skilling up ranged weapons you'll see the crit % go up in the ranged section (for my hunter that's where I was watching)

My worst was my Warriors gun skill. OMG, no auto shoot that Hunters have. Manually clicking the shoot button 500 times just sucked XD

Yes, every melee weapon would raise in crit %, as the skill goes up. I can't wait to get home and double check the crit % of all 3 forms again. I'll make a post or post in here on what I find.

Oh, as for changing anything, nope. Right before I started whacking mobs with my 2H mace, I wrote down the crit%. Then changed forms, seen they were the same %. Then skilled up my 2H a bit, checked my crit % in all forms (they gone up, and it was the same % for all forms). I asked some guildies, but they're resto (not that it makes a difference), but they did not know.

Here's my skills page in my armory just to show, I've skilled up a few weapons XD Still not where I want to be, but getting there. Gyf's skill page

Edited, Jan 21st 2008 2:54pm by GYFFORD

I just hope it's not because I'm a lowbie level again (28). I doubt that's the reason, becuase I've seen it on my Warrior and Hunter when skilling up for new weapons.

It's not super drastic. It's like .03% or something per level (I have no idea what it is actually), but my xbow crit was very low when I got my BG xbow, and I remember saying "WTF I was over 21'ish % crit with my Val bow. As the xbow. Finally when topped off on my weapon skill, it was back over 20something (actually a tad bit more thanks to the stats on it, about 24'ish), but at 1st I was really scared lol. Kept thinking WTF I'm keeping Val bow if it's going to ***** my crit % like that, almost tossed my 27k Honor weapon.... That was the day I noticed.

Edited, Jan 21st 2008 4:19pm by GYFFORD

Thanks mate, that really cleared up a few things :D

I have seen instances where a tooltip in the character sheet will give you wrong information.

For example, a few weeks ago before I switched back to feral from resto, I noticed an odd thing in my character sheet. It said that mana regen while casting was over 900 per five seconds (if only). However, it didn't always say that, it was going back and forth between 900/5 and around 100/5 (what it really is). I tested it and realized that when it said 900/5 I was still only getting around 100/5. I also eventually noticed that the glitch happened when I changed into ToL form, but after a short time being in ToL, the tooltip would go back to what it actually was.

Anyway, right now I'm standing in caster form with a Two-Handed Mace skill of 207 and a crit % of 10.62. Okay, gonna switch to bear. My crit % has now gone up to 27.34.

Now the bug I experienced with my ToL isn't really the same as what you're seeing with your Bear form crit, but they are both oddities that are happening on the character sheet. It may just be that you're noticing some random glitch like I was.

Either way, if you have a damage meter that keeps track of crit%, you can use that to test and see if your actual crit% is the same in both forms as what it says on the character sheet.

Sharpened claws increases crit % in Bear, Dire Bear, and Cat form by 6% when maxed. Also, Leader of the Pack increases my crit by 5%. So with those talents together I have 11% increase to my crit when in Bear or Cat form.

With a caster form crit of 10.62%, those talents would bring it up to 21.62%, leaving 5.72% crit difference from my Bear form crit of 27.34%. You mentioned that you thought your crit% raises by around .03% per level of weapon skill. With a maxed out Feral Weapon skill, the numbers I get make it out to be exactly .04% crit for each level of weapon skill.

Even if it does turn out to just be an error in your character sheet, at this point it may be best to open a ticket about this, either that or wait for someone more knowledgeable (sp?) than me to respond.

It sounds like we might be on the same page.

Are you going by opinion or something in writing CattieBeCool? I had Arenas and Gruul/ZA for my Warrior, I was going to do a ticket for the GM but guild needed me. I'll have to do it today.

It's funny how Kagenite came up with .04% per level and I physically seen my crit (character sheet) say I gained a .04% after 1 weapon skill.

I'll find out tonight, have Kara... but I'll try to talk to him before.

Not by opinion, not by a writing (but i do believe i read it somewhere but cant remember from where).. I have a 70 druid, geared up and what not.

And staff skill/mace skill has nothing to do with feral combat...

You dont use the weapon, you dont attack with the weapon.. Its why enchants wont proc in shifted form.

In feral form, you use just that.. Feral attacks.

Ill try to figure out where i read that from, but i think high is right...

In caster form you actually wield the staff itself whihc would make sense to me that when you swing that staff in oomkin form it levels (which it does)

Where as in cat/bear it does not.

Since I don't have Sharpened claw talent yet, or leader of the Pack, etc to adjust bear/cat form crit% What I'm saying is that ALL FORMS the crit was THE SAME crit % increase. Which was .04% (on the 1 weapon skill I tested, before getting called off to Gruul's). I'm trying to figure out if it's a 'glitch' or if there is something to it. I guess until I see something in writing, I'm going to believe the writing & math I do see (on my character sheet). Which means I'll keep my staff/mace skilled up for the better %.

I'm hoping the GM ticket will answer this question. I just did not have the time last night.


That part made me laugh.

I've seen stupid level 70s while running Heroics and stuff, I'm sure we all have lol. Not saying that you are, but having a well geared lv 70 is not justification for a answer to a question.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but it's on the same subject... :)

Anyways, yesterday I was bored and decided to level my staff skill. I know that weapon skill is not a factor in cat/bear form, but I've noticed that occasionally while fighting, if I'm changing forms or pausing to heal myself, I'll get a hit in with my staff. So, I figured I might as well keep it leveled. Besides, I occasionally will heal a group when questing if I'm the only healer there. And if there is no aoe from the mobs and the group does not need many heals, I'll go in and whap the mob with my staff. :)

So, I don't think it hurts to level the weapon skills as a druid. :)