Pardon my shameless patting of my own back.
Our guild finally downed Netherspite this week, making it a full clear (including Nightbane) on our 5th full week in (we had a one night trial run 5 weeks ago and cleared to Curator before reset). And this little old SV hunter topped the damage charts. :) Including a personal best on Shade of 1280 DPS (with pet).
But I'm more proud of our other static hunter. He joined us with less than good gear, and a pvp spec (not knowing that's what he was specced for). We brought him along 2 weeks ago since we had a gap anyway, and his DPS was 310. In 2 weeks, through his own hard work, and a little prodding from me, he's brought it up to a very consistent 690-700 DPS. Now if only we could get him a Wolfslayer and 2-3 more pieces.
Edited, Jan 19th 2008 6:16am by Steelray
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 5:31am by Steelray
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Steelray wrote:
Including a personal best on Shade of 1280 DPS (with pet).
NorthAI the Hand wrote:
Steelray wrote:
Including a personal best on Shade of 1280 DPS (with pet).
LOL. I should've screen shotted that yesterday. I didn't believe it either.
And note I said personal best - one fight. Everything procced like crazy. Had 2 pally buffs and a mark of the wild, plus pots, food, scrolls. My usual DPS is around 640. But seeing that number was a jaw dropper when my guildies posted it after the fight (2 seperate). I could only wish to do that on a regular basis... or even do it again. But it was nice if just a fluke. (and don't spoil my fun and tell me it was a glitch... even if it was ;-))
This was our first week even going after Netherspite. For some reason, we never got around to it the last 3 weeks. We've taken Nightbane down 2 for 2.
But since you asked:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shu%27halo&n=Steelray
If you stay in the blue beam for a while you can get some crazy dps on netherspite. Do you run to the back of the room for the netherbreath? An SV hunter would have the biggest increase from the blue beam due to all the crits. If you got lucky you could get enough dps to get 1200. It is a bit exceptional, how long were you in the blue beam?
Grats on the Kill. My guild just killed high king maulgar and got gruul down to 48%.
Grats on the Kill. My guild just killed high king maulgar and got gruul down to 48%.
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No, that was on Shade the day before, not Netherspite.
But now even I'm doubting those numbers. Not sure how their mods calculate DPS. Oh well, I guess things that seem too good to be true.... :(
For Netherspite, I never got in the blue beam. I actually had to tank every other beam phase for 25 seconds. We had a lock who held the blue beam for the entire phase every odd beam phase, and other DPS take turns on the evens. I was standby for the lock if he had to bail, but he never did.
But now even I'm doubting those numbers. Not sure how their mods calculate DPS. Oh well, I guess things that seem too good to be true.... :(
For Netherspite, I never got in the blue beam. I actually had to tank every other beam phase for 25 seconds. We had a lock who held the blue beam for the entire phase every odd beam phase, and other DPS take turns on the evens. I was standby for the lock if he had to bail, but he never did.
Ah, I missed the shade comment in the OP and just assumed netherspite. Yeah, I'd be really skeptical about that number. I can push 1000-1100 on a fight where I stand still the whole time like the bear boss in ZA, and my gear is pretty close to yours. On shade, where you have to move around, eh, I'd be really surprised.
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Ah, I missed the shade comment in the OP and just assumed netherspite. Yeah, I'd be really skeptical about that number. I can push 1000-1100 on a fight where I stand still the whole time like the bear boss in ZA, and my gear is pretty close to yours. On shade, where you have to move around, eh, I'd be really surprised.
On the other hand, Shade has next to no armor. With a warrior devastating shade, faerie fire and that armor reducing warlock curse (forgot the name), Arran has next to 0 armor. When we are melee heavy we apply all those debuffs and really nuke that sissy hard. I don't have logs on that fight as we do not log the 10mans.
We killed shade on Saturday and without a warrior in our group (feral druid and prot pally tanking the instance) I did ~240k damage against arran. The fight took us a bit more than 3min30seconds (Arran died a few seconds after my 2nd rapid fire and I started the fight with trinket + rapid fire active).
So on this fight I did ~240000/210 ~= 1140dps. With less armor, my dps would have been more like 1300.
Of course I have a lot better gear than is required for this fight, but I believe hunters with some items from kara and the rest good blues might achieve 1k dps against shade. And with a bit luck and some nice crit series there is no reason not to get 1.2k dps once in a while.
Was that your first 4 times through kara aswell or just your guilds? If you have only been through there 4 times, I'm trippin on the fact you have legacy, sunfury bow and caronas signet ring... took me forever to get those... Anyways.
Gratz to you and your guild. I know how hitting those guild goals can really be a big boost to your confidence... My guild and I just downed Hydross and Fathom-lord from SSC and Solarian from TK last week. All guild firsts. Scored t5 legs from FL. Woot for the set bonus!
First off, I'd like to say grats! Nightbane is an exciting boss to take down, since he takes the most coordination of all the bosses in Kara. The first time I took him down, I went into a fit of giggles.
But I'm not sure about the 1280 sustained DPS on Shade. My first reaction to that is to say that your DPS meter somehow dropped you out of combat, reset, and you got a 1280 crit before dropping back out of combat.
But then again, I've sustained 972 DPS on Gruul (according to WWS), but those numbers could be skewed because of an unlucky shatter.
Are you sure you didn't trigger flame wreath? I suppose it's possible to get that high DPS because you don't ever have to worry about threat.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 4:29am by ProjectMidnight
But I'm not sure about the 1280 sustained DPS on Shade. My first reaction to that is to say that your DPS meter somehow dropped you out of combat, reset, and you got a 1280 crit before dropping back out of combat.
But then again, I've sustained 972 DPS on Gruul (according to WWS), but those numbers could be skewed because of an unlucky shatter.
Are you sure you didn't trigger flame wreath? I suppose it's possible to get that high DPS because you don't ever have to worry about threat.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 4:29am by ProjectMidnight
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Was that your first 4 times through kara aswell or just your guilds? If you have only been through there 4 times, I'm trippin on the fact you have legacy, sunfury bow and caronas signet ring... took me forever to get those... Anyways.
Gratz to you and your guild. I know how hitting those guild goals can really be a big boost to your confidence... My guild and I just downed Hydross and Fathom-lord from SSC and Solarian from TK last week. All guild firsts. Scored t5 legs from FL. Woot for the set bonus!
Actually, that was a typo (idk why I didn't spot it), it should have read 5 full runs (which in reality is 5.5 because of our first trial run of one night on a Monday). And our initial (or main if you will) Kara group was kind of fairly well geared for our first guild runs. 3 of our raid team were kara vets (one hit exalted the first night, the other 2 hit exalted the second full week), and most had at least 3-4 heroic epics equipped (and a few pvp epics). Now that we have it more or less on farm, we're bringing in lesser geared guys - but still one-shotting most bosses (Nightbane and Netherspite have yet to be one-shotted. Partly due to the fights, and partly due to our bringing in new guys each run).
And yeah, Got Legacy second week in (and another of our hunters got it the very next week). Got Sunfury on Prince kill #4. Got Garona's the same night we killed Shade with the controversial DPS numbers.
In fact, we just ran the first half tonight again, and we got Oz AGAIN. Like, 5 times in a row now. No Legacy this time (or we might have had to shard it). Our second ranked hunter is getting steamed... he wants Big Bad Wolf so bad, I feel sorry for him.
And Garona's actually dropped my first night ever in Kara, but our rogue got it. It dropped again last week and I won the roll. We've had Ring of a Thousand Marks drop twice in those 5.5 weeks too (or twice in 5 Prince kills if you will).
We took down Nalorakk on our first try the other night, but we can't seem to get the hang of the gauntlet run going up to the second boss in ZA. A bit of a learning curve me thinks... or we're not geared enough yet. IDK
Grats on the 25 mans. We're just hoping to make a little progress into them before the xpac. Our second Kara group is still a week away, maybe 2. Until then, we try swapping people in and out as much as possible to get them gear they need (or the chance at it anyway).
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 5:59am by Steelray
ProjectMidnight wrote:
But I'm not sure about the 1280 sustained DPS on Shade. My first reaction to that is to say that your DPS meter somehow dropped you out of combat, reset, and you got a 1280 crit before dropping back out of combat.
But then again, I've sustained 972 DPS on Gruul (according to WWS), but those numbers could be skewed because of an unlucky shatter.
Are you sure you didn't trigger flame wreath? I suppose it's possible to get that high DPS because you don't ever have to worry about threat.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 4:29am by ProjectMidnight
But then again, I've sustained 972 DPS on Gruul (according to WWS), but those numbers could be skewed because of an unlucky shatter.
Are you sure you didn't trigger flame wreath? I suppose it's possible to get that high DPS because you don't ever have to worry about threat.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 4:29am by ProjectMidnight
I'm certain I didn't trigger flame wreath. We all (including me now since I got it to see for myself) use Recount, and that would've came up as friendly fire, I believe (which only our locks ever show up on). That, and I know well enough not to move. ;-)
I don't think I ever dropped out of combat. But something we did notice is that Recount calculates DPS by damage vs. "time active." Or so it appears. So if you're running around, or (as has happened to me) have your back to Shade during flame wreath and can't attack (killing an elemental and getting wreathed just as it dropped), you're considered inactive during that time. Maybe? I'm not sure, but it would explain things. It also would explain why someone with more total damage would show a lesser DPS number sometimes.
The two best representative fights I could think of (Nalorakk and Maiden), I showed up as 914 DPS on Nalorakk, and 820 on Maiden this week. Again, not sure if it's accurate or not, but seems more likely anyway. Then again, Mulgrin has an interesting theory about Shade. We'll see if I can come close to those numbers again tomorrow night.
Edited to add: And we actually killed Nightbane twice before Netherspite. For some reason, Netherspite intimidated some of our group. But after killing Nightbane twice, everyone was feeling their oats enough to have a crack at him.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 6:07am by Steelray
Eh, you saw 1280, so I'm going to just take it on faith. That's crazy, I don't know how on earth you did it, but good job. I got 1100 on curator and 1140 on illhoof yesterday, which was pretty sweet, first times I've pushed over 1000 on them. I realized after the raid that I had done a full 25% of the damage overall and 30% of the damage on prince. lol@bringing new people. I only got 850 on shade though 
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Xsarus wrote:
Eh, you saw 1280, so I'm going to just take it on faith. That's crazy, I don't know how on earth you did it, but good job. I got 1100 on curator and 1140 on illhoof yesterday, which was pretty sweet, first times I've pushed over 1000 on them. I realized after the raid that I had done a full 25% of the damage overall and 30% of the damage on prince. lol@bringing new people. I only got 850 on shade though
Well, I couldn't duplicate it last night. Got 833. :( So either last week was a major fluke, or something was off.
On the bright side, 2 of our hunters reallly made out like bandits on loot this week. One got the crossbow and neck off Attumen (making it 4 kara drops in not even a full run for him yet). The other got his Sunfury last night. It's not the Wolfslayer he really wants, but it's a major upgrade over what he had.
My last guild's first ever attempt at Shade had me sitting at 1200dps without pet. Shade has hardly any armor, and when a well geared SV Hunter pops trinkets and starts mashing out crits, 1200 dps is entirely reasonable. (Raid buffed AP @2200+, Hunters Mark (up to +440 AP), Bladefist's Breadth (+200?), Rage of the Unraveller proc...it goes on and on...and then toss in a 41% crit rate, and you see how the numbers can skyrocket when threat is a non-issue).
I've been in everything post opera 7-10 times, and everything opera and before maybe 5, and I still have yet to even SEE Legacy, Beastmaw Pauldrons or Wolfslayer, I got outrolled by the other Hunter in my group for Sunfury, outrolled by a WARRIOR on garonas signet ring and the one night I had to leave early (we do optionals after Prince) they downed Illhoof and got Girdle of the prowler.... and it went to a douchebag Enhancement Shaman.
I have horrible luck with drops and rolls... but on the plus side, my guild just put gruul's on farm status and I just got my T4 Shoulders (upgrade from Towering mantle of the Hunt) and I would have been able to get the T4 legs too since they dropped from Gruul, but a guild rule says you can't bid/ win on more than one item in 25 mans unless one of the items is passed on by everyone else on the run... it keeps it fair I suppose but letting one person get everything they want/ need on one run takes them out of the running for every other time they are in the raid, but whatever... i'm happy.
I have horrible luck with drops and rolls... but on the plus side, my guild just put gruul's on farm status and I just got my T4 Shoulders (upgrade from Towering mantle of the Hunt) and I would have been able to get the T4 legs too since they dropped from Gruul, but a guild rule says you can't bid/ win on more than one item in 25 mans unless one of the items is passed on by everyone else on the run... it keeps it fair I suppose but letting one person get everything they want/ need on one run takes them out of the running for every other time they are in the raid, but whatever... i'm happy.
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Aye. Not to parrot what's been said so often, but it's sad that so many Hunters get pigeonholed into BM/MM. Hopefully the buffs we're getting lately will continue, and aren't just a red heron: I find the idea of nerfs to any of my alts absolutely petrelfying, but wren push comes to shove, they don't happen all that often. On the other hand, they seem to be intent on robin my main's power.
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Edited to add: And we actually killed Nightbane twice before Netherspite. For some reason, Netherspite intimidated some of our group. But after killing Nightbane twice, everyone was feeling their oats enough to have a crack at him.
Edited, Jan 23rd 2008 6:07am by Steelray
oops. the nightbane thing was a typo. I get those mixed up every once in a while. Netherspite is the one that take the coordination. Nightbane, aside from the Rain of Bones, and the Aggro pick-up when he comes back down, is basically tank n spank. :)
the aggro pickup really isnt an issue if you have a hunter in the raid.
Misdirection FTW!
Misdirection FTW!
Well anyways, Gratz. Get DBM and do some gruuls when ya get a chance... get some t4 shoulders and legs to go with Curators gloves... ;P Pew Pew FTW!
DONT get the T4 shoulders, they suck ***.
Beastmaw are better.
Beastmaw are better.
Agreed. I passed on them again last night. I'd love to complete my T4 set at some point for the bragging rights, but not at the expense of any member of the raid getting a needed upgrade. And being that neither Curator nor Prince have been good to me, "completing" won't happen with just the T4 shoulders. I do enjoy the cut of the legs, though. :)
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