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#1 Jan 18 2008 at 9:18 PM Rating: Good
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Due to this rather disturbing post, we can now safely add one other factor that brings rogues out of stealth.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3913740831&sid=1

In other words, someone simply THINKING about bringing you out of stealth can bring you out of stealth. GG.

On a side note, I finally learned a fail-proof method to make lab rats exercise. I used to try and get them to use a little rat wheel or a rat treadmill, but the lazy bastards would eventually just stop moving and walk off the things (or get shot off in the case of the treadmill). However, if you get a bucket of water (which is significantly cheaper than both of those methods) and drop the rat in it, it has to swim or it dies. It's a very effective, cheap, cruel and humorous way to get a lab specimen to exercise if any of you are ever in need.

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I'd also like to add that our class would greatly benefit from fixing this bug, but no blue has even responded to the topic yet as of page 22. There are going to be some very angry people if someone doesn't say something soon...

Edit 2:

Here is a video proving this is indeed true.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6003931067347470481

Edit 3:

Original post was on 01/17/2008 08:33:11 AM UTC. As of 01/19/2008 03:28:34 PM UTC, there has still been no response from Blizzard about this issue. Yes, you are being ignored.

Edit 4:

Still no response, although the topic has been extended by a Blizzard rep. Makes you wonder why they aren't saying anything.

Edit 5:

Dr. Mayhem's post:
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Hortus answers!

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.htm...5&sid=1

I cant wait to see how this one turns out.

Nice dig at the end toward the few of us that spammed the crap out of the bug forum.

EDIT: And LOL, I've been banned for 24 hours in the O-boards. I will accept your praise of my martyrdom appropriately. I wonder how long they banned Raelie after cursing in foreign languages.


Edited, Jan 22nd 2008 11:10pm by Shaolinz
#2 Jan 18 2008 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
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If you haven't been diligently reading the thread hoping for a blue post (like me for the last two days), Zodar made a discovery here too.

Duel another rogue, or stand near an enemy rogue in contested territory. Both stealth. One of you unstealth. The other will be magically pulled out of stealth ~5 seconds later.
#3 Jan 18 2008 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
Ohhhh man. Great find Shao.
#4 Jan 19 2008 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I posted in the patch notes thread in the general section, but today I did some more testing.

I duelled with a fellow NE rogue, and we both managed to take each other out of stealth while sapped.

On a side note, anybody know why I can't re-stealth before the gauge wears off? It is very frustrating in arena to have a 5.5second gauge, but get charged(intercepted?) by a warrior just as I stealth and lose everything I gained from it...
#5 Jan 19 2008 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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Devz, you must be out of combat for 6 seconds in order to restealth, since gouge is only 5.5, you need to use those 5.5 seconds to either LOS the warrior or get out of range, to ensure yourself that you will remain out of combat for the last .5 second.
#6 Jan 19 2008 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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4 posts, rogue forum, bug forum, PTR forum, and general forum. The rogue and bug forum threads have been continuously on the front page for three days. The rogue forum thread has exceeded the normal post limit, so obviously blue has seen it and extended it. The general thread and PTR thread have been deleted by blue.

So for three days we have no response on this issue except for two deletions, and an extension. Oh yes and the guy who posted the general forums thread was banned for 3 hours with no explanation (assumed that whole "dont post in general to alert the population to a class specific issue yadda yadda).

The way I see it there are 3 potential blue actions.

1. Blue: "stealth is imperfect, L2adapt. kthxbai

2. Blue: "TY for locating a bug, we have passed this info on to the devs for testing.

3. Blue: "stealth is glitchy and imbalanced. In patch 2.4 stealth will be removed from the game."

GG Blizz
#7 Jan 19 2008 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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4. We didn't lie to you and were not wrong all these years claiming it was a latency issue. It...uhh...still is, and we won't fix it because doing so would be admitting we were wrong.
#8 Jan 19 2008 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, that's impressive. Need to try this.

That's like... wow
#9 Jan 19 2008 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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Shouldn't you be slicing up dead bodies? Or do you suck at all slicing?
#10 Jan 19 2008 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I am actually. A post on here takes about 5 minutes to write, I spend the other 23 hours and 55 minutes of my day in the lab. True story. Coffee=pwn
#11 Jan 20 2008 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, that argument was just swept under the rug. The topic is now two pages down and on its way to deletion. Talk about "ignoring".
#12 Jan 20 2008 at 10:24 AM Rating: Good
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I expect most people know that Blizzard doesn't work on weekends. Monday I am sure the flood of posts will continue, followed by an increasing number of "I'm canceling who's with me" posts.
#13 Jan 20 2008 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't check the Oboards, so I'd appreciate it if someone could keep us updated on this here.
#14 Jan 21 2008 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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The topic is on the 4th or 5th page now. Looks like this is over :/
#15 Jan 21 2008 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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Shaolinz wrote:
The topic is on the 4th or 5th page now. Looks like this is over :/


A few of us, not that anyone takes a lvl 68 BE seriously, are still pushing the issue, and don't plan to give up any time soon.

Granted the rogue forum thread maxing out is not out of the ordinary, but how often is there a Bug forum thread that goes 11 pages?
#16 Jan 21 2008 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
bump it dude.
#17 Jan 21 2008 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I wonder how many will spam the thread before they realize that today is a holiday.
#18 Jan 21 2008 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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Today is a holiday?

And I noticed the reply button is grayed out earlier today...
#19 Jan 21 2008 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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devzzz, Assassin Reject wrote:
Today is a holiday?

And I noticed the reply button is grayed out earlier today...
Well, my college is closed for a MiLK day. Dunno what that means, but I assumed it was a holiday.
#20 Jan 21 2008 at 10:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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devzzz, Assassin Reject wrote:
Today is a holiday?

Martin Luther King Day, here in the States, at least.
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#21 Jan 21 2008 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the replies.

I am in europe, so no holiday here.

That thread did get a huge following quickly, and I noticed some new thread popping up now to support it.

I wonder what blizzard will do now that everybody and their mom knows rogues are bugged to @~%^.
#22 Jan 21 2008 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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devzzz, Assassin Reject wrote:
I wonder what blizzard will do now that everybody and their mom knows rogues are bugged to @~%^.
exploit it in arena until it is fixed?

That is what I would do.
#23 Jan 21 2008 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
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Or just ignore it until everyone who cares quits.

Which is what they seem to be doing.
#24 Jan 21 2008 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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It's what you're doing. I'm not stupid, so I'm not doing that.
#25 Jan 21 2008 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
Doing some AV's this weekend with some guildies I had a hunter pet on me and am close to death. I COS/evade/sprint/vanish the pet is still on me as I run by a priest he does his aoe fear and the hunter pet is cought up in it I continue running after sprint fades and the priest comes over vent saying dont stop the pet is still after you! So even after being feared the pet never dropped target I was way out of range and had stayed in stealth after blowing all of my cooldowns pet catches me and breaks stealth and kills me!
#26 Jan 21 2008 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I've verified this as well. Friday night, dueled a rogue friend, tried the sap spam attacks and yup we could both pull eachother out of stealth. Also confirmed that both stealthing, then one of us clicking off the stealth "buff" would also cause the other to unstealth.

Sometime soon, I'm hoping to mess around with finding ways to make vanish-stealth break. They hate us, they really do.

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