Eeking out a bit more.Follow

A few things, since old Gyf has to stick his nose into everything XD

You're exaulted with Sha'tar... for the love of God get the epic shield, and drop that greenie =), your next upgrade from that will be the Nightbane shield, then Gruul's shield.

I'd suggest saving a few more badges and getting the 75 badge pants.... soooooo much stamina.

Star of Elune is your friend. You don't have to match up socket colors with socket gems. You can use blue in red, but you won't get the socket bonus (if it's a crappy bonus... take the +12 stam over the crappy bonus).

Your armory is showing you buffed with fort and food, so that 13.5k is going to be much less. Buff up your Stamina, keeping over 490 defense, then worry about dodge/parry. Don't change anything now... what's done is done, but when you get your T4 stuff in Kara, start looking at the socket bonus, and start filling up the slots with star of elune (unless it's a very very good bonus). I'm at like 14.6k unbuffed atm, and I know I need to resocket some gems :/ I never knew about any gem for any slot thing.

That's all I got looking from work.

*edit* Also, toss that gun, try for "The Boomstick" (what I'm using), or that engineering epic gun "Gyro-someting something" (it'll require a lot of adamite node hunting... that's why I don't have it yet).


Edited, Jan 18th 2008 3:48pm by GYFFORD

Slow weapons are a lot of the time better now, since rage generation is normalized. Granted, it can be a BIT spikier than it would be with a faster weapon, but your devastates will hit harder. If you can manage a proper rage level with a slow weapon, it will in most cases be better for threat.

Tanking is not cheap. I spend about 100g to restock my consumables (scrolls of protect, Ironshield pots, HP pots, food, etc). I just bought 5 star of elunes last night alone (new chest and waist). 45g a pop. That's a what 3 - 4 dailies, each?... But it's worth it.

I said don't worry about resocketing your current gear... why waste the gem inside there, just giving you a suggestion on what to socket next. However when you get your T4 armor, I'd suggest more than a few SoE's.

And I'm just suggesting a better ranged weapon. You are looking to hit 490 defense(no less). The boomstick gives you more Stamina, and still offers Defense. 'Gyro-ballance' tanking gun offers more stamina and a gem slot.

It's all about stamina, more stam = more error margin your healers get. Our guild's main tank has over 20k buffed, same with our #2 bear tank, I'm about 18._k buffed (I think). Like I said start thinking Star of Elunes.

I actually like Imp Taunt for the overzealous dps in heroics and trash mobs. You said:

On boss fights do you really have that much of a rage problem tho? I know I Devastate spam, Shield Block is on CD always, revenges, T. clap always up, Demo always up, and I'm constantly at full rage. I think my gear is getting pretty good, I use my normal (un-Imp. bloodrage) for the initial shield slam for threat, then it's a constant fight to dump my rage. IMO Imp bloodrage is not needed, but each person tanks different. I can see your point about 2 bloodrages if you're off tanking it'll help (like Gruul's.. but you could stand in a 'cave in' a little bit, for rage if needed), but I'm always topped off on the rage department

Edited, Jan 18th 2008 8:41pm by GYFFORD

My spec right now feels the best its ever been. I have zero problems with rage generation in instances (and this spec is instance only).

Any and all atk power i can pull off mobs that are hitting me is good.

I use bloodrage at the beginning of fights and never need it again. I really really never run out of rage. (yes i keep all of my stuff on cooldown and gen about 600 threat per sec), so i dont really see the benefit in a little extra rage.

As it is, i can shield slam on a bloodrage, which is about the most i need out of it. (thats how i pick up sparks when im offtanking curator)


Really this thread is about gear and gems. I took a little shopping trip last night and replace several of my 2 color gems with solid stars and have my hp up to almost 12k. I just dont really see much of a way to get too much more out of the gear i have.

AH! This is the kind of explanation Im looking for. I really havent been able to delve far enough into the game to understand some of the math thats happening behind the scenes. Thanks for the heads up.

On a side note, I just rolled a mage on your server today.(Ally side) Non-raid days are getting to be long. :P

If you're at full rage, even on a boss fight, then you're not Heroic Striking enough. With a 1.6 speed weapon (like SE or KD), you should easily be able to spend all of your rage. I'm not saying that you should spend all of your rage, as you never want to have too little rage to maintain your normal tanking rotation, but if you're finding yourself at 100 rage, then you're really gimping your TPS for no good reason.

It happens to me a bit too, because sometimes I don't realize just how much damage I'm really taking. I engage the mob, 2 seconds later I look at my rage bar and I have 100 rage and i'm like WTF. In order to not be full rage all the time I literally have to use Heroic Strike every single attack sometimes.

Meh, I never have a threat problem, I genearlly don't use Heroic strike. Mainly because it waits until your next melee swing. Maybe I'll throw that into my rotation, but right now with Devastate, Shield Slam, Shield Block and Revenges, I have absolutely no threat problems. I've gotten compliments about keeping kara mobs off mages who start off with back to back crits. Basically I just spam Devastate, throw up Block, S.Slam, revenge (nice little circle rotation, the Block causes a Revenge, S.Slam is usually up when my Revenge is off CD.

I'll have to try throwing in H. Strikes, I'm pretty sure tho for me it'll be one of those 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' deals. I will look into it tho.

Are you kidding me? You say some stuff I agree with on these boards, some stuff I don't, but really...are you retarded? Please tell me this is an attempt at humor. Go hit a mob in defensive stance. TRY to tell me that you're imagining that rage that you're getting. TRY.