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#1 Jan 17 2008 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok so I dinged 46 last night and was asked to tank ZF for a group. I told them I was fury but I would still give a stab at it. (No pun intended)


So I went in thinking, "I never had a problem tanking SM Cath at 40 so this should be a walk in the park" Boy was I wrong. I'd make a pull and no sooner than I laid a TClap down did 2 or 3 of the mobs just turn tail and run streight to our mage.

So I run there and slap a few sunders on as fast as I could followed with a TClap as I didn't want to waste challenging shout that quickly in the fight. (even switched to Zerker stance to pop my Blood rage and Zerker rage for extra rage generation then went right back to defensive stance) and as soon as I laid down another stack of sunders on all mobs. 2x on each the same 2 or 3 damned mobs would head streight back at the mage.

It was so frustrating I was tempted to respec back to Prot so I could continue to tank like I did Pre 40.
#2 Jan 17 2008 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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You said "2 or 3 of the mobs would run straight to your mage". The only thing I can gather from this is that perhaps the mage was AoE'ing them? If so, then you did nothing wrong. Your mage did. Also, you mention you had a mage, but were any of the mobs being sheeped?
#3 Jan 17 2008 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
i'd recommend marking if ur having trouble with multiple mob pulls. get everyone to attack the same target, so u can focus on him as well, and ur Tclap shood hold the others since noone else is attacking them. also, were u using taunt wen ud lose aggro?
#4 Jan 17 2008 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I didn't mark and mobs to be sheeped unless we had a 5 pull. then I would mark for sheeping and sapping. Didn't feel I needed to unless we had more than my TC would cover. Just seemed like the sunders weren't doing as much as they use to.

I didn't see any AoE and that was my consern. usually it was just 2 max but I had a few pulls where he would rain down his icy death on these mobs and they didn't take to kindly to that so he quit after dying the second time. Most of the instance didn't go to bad but it was frustrating the first few pulls where I was having a hard time holding aggro on what seemed an easy 4 man pull.

Though I did have the rogue pulling aggro of me a couple of times I believe through his crits. Tooltip said I was 15.38 crit rate unbuffed (I was still wearing my berserker helm at the time.) So it wasn't to hard to burn through them just seemed like I couldn't get enough threat built up on them to just burn extra rage... I didn't have any... that bothered me a bit.
#5 Jan 17 2008 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah I would pop taunt on 1 of the mobs and switch to the next to try to get aggro back. but it seemed like forever to get it off that guy and in the mean time the rogue was building alot of threat against the Main target.
#6 Jan 17 2008 at 1:36 PM Rating: Good
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If multiple mobs were running to the mage then he was probably AoEing. That's his fault, not yours. You can only tank if the rest of the group lets you. You can't control other people's stupidity.
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#7 Jan 17 2008 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
If there going to the mage that is the mages fault but if there going to the healers that is your fault. Just occasionally put a sunder on one of the targets that your not killing and spam thunderclap, that should hold aggro.
#8 Jan 17 2008 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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never assume that cc is not necessary. do everything you can to make your and your healers job easier.

also, it does sound like it was your mages fault.
#9 Jan 18 2008 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
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As a tank, youll have to get used to the idea of "running" instances. What I mean is that usually we have to mark and pull.

Always use CC. Always. Why make it harder that it has to be? If anyone has a problem with it, theres always another tank, after 2 hours of searching that is. :)

Establish a kill order. Everyone in the party follows the kill order. (ex. skull, x, then sheep)Stay with that same order through the entire instance. If you have to do something different, like say sap. use a different mark.

If a person breaks the kill order,(other than the healer with heal ag) they get to tank the mob. Yeah, im pretty harsh on pugs, but dammit i hate chasing around in circles while they randomly pick targets and blast them with huge mage crits. Guildies get a bit more forgiveness about this, but still, if you cant follow the kill order, stay out of instances.

lastly, vent up. Using a voice program makes communication DURING a fight possible. I cant even imagine how many wipes have been averted simply because I could say what was happening rather than type it out while using both hands to tank. If they dont have a mic (12$, come on...) tell them to get on anyway so they can hear you.

Edited, Jan 18th 2008 12:33pm by freekyE
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