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#1 Jan 16 2008 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello all,

Read through the FAQs, but they were lacking in the area I was curious. I have have been leveling Fury warrior for a while now, and my main is a Prot Pally.

So I do enjoy tanking, but also since there isn't a 100% group chance, like to be able to solo efficiently. The Prot Pally can AE grind large groups of mobs for good XP/hour in addition to their tanking ability, but does warrior have access to something along the same lines?

I didn't really see anything in the Warrior Prot tree that would really help DPS while soloing on the same grounds as Reckoning, Holy Shield, ect from the Pally Prot tree.

So do Prot Warriors solo slowly one target and just out last them? or is there a trick that I'm not really seeing that makes AE grinding or single target DPS much higher then I am expecting/seeing?

Thanks in advance.
#2 Jan 16 2008 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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Best you can do is soloing multiple targets with cleave. For me, I just pull one mob at a time, burn it down in about 45 seconds using Shield Slam as much as possible, and then moving to the next mob. When I get multiple mobs I use cleave sometimes but for the most part I still just take down one at a time. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. It does take a little longer to do quests and stuff, but in general I can solo everything that anyone else can. I soloed tons of Group quests in Nagrand, Shadowmoon Valley, and Netherstorm. Even some 70 elites I soloed with relative ease as a prot warrior.
#3 Jan 16 2008 at 6:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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For me, I switch out to my dps gear, which was not too bad since I was Arms, and duel wield. I just spam Devastate and Heroic Strike till the mob dies. I tend to only pull one at a time, kill and move on to the next one. Didn't have much problems when I was farming for Apexis Crystal Shards.
#4 Jan 16 2008 at 7:03 PM Rating: Good
Make sure to pick up improved sunder, One-handed weapon specilization and devastate. Once you have that, grab two one handed weapons. Put a slower one in your mainhand, faster one in your offhand.

Charge the mob, spam devastate on it. The slower nature of your mainhand will cause the devastate to hit for more. The faster offhand will cause you to gain rage faster.
#5 Jan 16 2008 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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prot grinding is one of the slowest and worst ways to lvl for warriors.

fury is probably the easiest (imp slam ftw), and doesn't require consistant usage of a specific weapon type. just the highest dps 2h you can find, pref with slowness, but it doesn't really make a huge difference with the way that slam damage works.

flurry wins hands down for dps. and while BT might not be great dps pre 70, it's still a bit less downtime if you use it when you have excess rage after a slam, more xp/lewt / hour.

it takes deep prot to get any benefit for DPS or xp/hour. and even then, arms or fury is vastly superior to prot for this.
#6 Jan 16 2008 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Avoid leveling as Prot. DPS specs can tank sufficiently well for pre-65 instances. You can mix in a few Prot talents (I liked Tactical Mastery), and possibly go down to Defiance to make tanking very easy, but more than that is excess imo.

As a few other people have said in this thread, if you do end up DPSing/soloing as Prot then put on your DPS gear (preferably with +hit) and Dual Wield with Devastate spam.

Personally I found the DPS in the warrior non-DPS spec (prot) to be better than the DPS in the shaman non-DPS spec (resto).
#7 Jan 17 2008 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I found a great way to solo as prot. However, it requires Shield Slam and would work best for a lvl 70. Equip all you Shield Block Value items and unequip those who doesn't have any SBV. Replace them with +crit or +agi items for a higher crit%. Then you just spam Shield Slam. The damage on Shield Slam is modified by your SBV.

www.wowhead.com/?talent=LZVVzA0xZfVtscozcxs]This is a prot PvP build I used for a while, and it worked great, especially against casters.

However, I wouldn't recomend prot as solo :)



Edited, Jan 17th 2008 5:19am by Sesseth
#8 Jan 17 2008 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I know that for a long while Prot wasn't considered a grinding spec, but recently have been hearing alot from various warriors who say they wear their shield in order to not have the higher miss chance dual wield brings, or something along those lines, haven't really looked to much into those mechanics to much.

That is what mainly procc'd my question to begin with. Thanks all for the answers. I'll keep my Troll Fury specced for the time being.
#9 Jan 17 2008 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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golembane wrote:
I know that for a long while Prot wasn't considered a grinding spec, but recently have been hearing alot from various warriors who say they wear their shield in order to not have the higher miss chance dual wield brings, or something along those lines, haven't really looked to much into those mechanics to much.

That is what mainly procc'd my question to begin with. Thanks all for the answers. I'll keep my Troll Fury specced for the time being.


your gear set determines how well you can dps in prot spec. i have about 140 hit rating and 1700+ AP in my dps grinding set in prot spec, and dual wielding spamming heroic strike, devastate and WW works quite well for me when soloing. however, i wouldn't recommend it if your gear doesn't at least have the necessary hit rating.
#10 Jan 17 2008 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I've tried both things. Dual-wielding with a DPS set on and spamming Devastate works pretty well for me. Mobs go down quickly, and Devastate does some nice damage. I didn't find I was missing too badly. I switched from Fury over to Prot at around level 67, though. I wanted to be able to get into the higher level instances, but was having trouble finding groups as DPS. There's a shortage of tanks on Drenden, it seems. I don't think that levelling as Prot would be very efficient at all if you couldn't get all the way down to Devastate and pick up the other necessary talents. Also, DPS is definitely higher in the Fury tree. It's easy enough to kill mobs spamming Devastate, but it's even easier with Flurry up.

Since hitting 70, I pretty much stick with my sword and shield. Spamming Shield Slam does some decent damage, and I like being able to kill several mobs in a row without having to eat or bandage. I wouldn't want to have to kill that way for levelling, though, as it can be time consuming. Grinding on mobs isn't as big of an issue at 70, though, so I just don't bother to switch my gear all the time. Saves on repair bills, too.
#11 Jan 18 2008 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I know that for a long while Prot wasn't considered a grinding spec, but recently have been hearing alot from various warriors who say they wear their shield in order to not have the higher miss chance dual wield brings, or something along those lines, haven't really looked to much into those mechanics to much.

That is what mainly procc'd my question to begin with. Thanks all for the answers. I'll keep my Troll Fury specced for the time being.


Basically that's a bad idea because a 2-hander results in the same miss rate as 1h+Shield. So while the shield provides maybe 10% less damage taken, the 2-hander will provide around 30% more damage dealt, resulting in significantly faster leveling.

Edited, Jan 18th 2008 10:43am by Axehilt
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