Tanking Prince - am I ready?Follow

Last night, I MT'd Karazhan for the first time. Our approach was:

Attumen
Moroes
Maiden
Opera
Curator
Shade
Chess
Prince

We made it to Prince. Wiped twice due to bad infernal placement. Third time, infernals were perfect. But in the second phase, I was practically one-shot. One second I was at full health, then I was dead. I didn't have enough time to use a Healthstone, health pot, Last Stand, Shield Wall, none of that.

Here's my stats, unbuffed:

13.5k HP
14.5k armor
509 defense rating
33+% combined dodge / parry
19+% block

Here's my armory:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kargath&n=Ugrasatsum

Any comments on gems / enchants / gear / talents would be appreciated.

But most importantly, do you feel that I am geared enough to take on Prince, and that it was possibly a mistake from the healers? Or should I just call it a lost cause and gear up some more? If so, what do you think would be viable gear choices before taking on Prince again?

I could've missed a shield block, but I heard that he can burn through shield block charges really quickly in the second phase and get in some crushing blows.

I didn't lose threat, I never lost threat in the fight. I know what happens with the enfeeble because I dpsed Prince last week.

You definitely have the stats to go all the way through Kara. During phase 2, crushes are a likely occurrence. He attacks much faster, and there's no way your 2 blocks in 6 seconds are going to be enough to avoid all crushes (which will hit in the 4-5k range). Your healers just have to be on their toes. Without knowing exactly what went on, we can only guess.

I would, however, make the following recommendations:

1. I run X-Perl, which has a cool feature called grim reaper. It tracks the last X number of heals/attacks made against you (and for everyone in your group), and whether they resulted in crits, crushes, block, parry, dodge, etc. For tanking I find this extremely helpful because it gives me something to stand on after a wipe, other than "the tank couldn't stay up". Typically it's the healers dropping the ball, rather than getting unlucky with back to back crushes for 4.5k each. It helps me to get a feel for how many crushes I take, and how often I have heals coming in. It gives me a good picture of what was happening before we wiped, that's much more user friendly than scrolling back through your combat log. If you like to run some other UI, then there is probably a similar mod out there.

2. Make sure all melee DPS is attacking from behind. A mob's next attack will happen immediately following a parry, so make sure your dps isn't ******** you over.

Your unbuffed stats are better than mine and I got through Prince last weekend. Our solution to my deaths in phase two were to assign two Healers (and not the one who kept me up during phase one so they were fairly fresh on mana) to me during that phase and with good Infernal placement we got through the fight though I did die right before the group got him down.

you are not prepared!


































No you were just unlucky.

Edited, Feb 1st 2008 1:02pm by Nikkelmand