Ok, I roll a dwarf warrior (see link in signature), and in arenas and BG's I have a big problem with mages. I see other warriors rip them apart, but I can't seem to end their life!
So, how do I kill a mage? Strategies on both fire and frost(the worst) wanted. And somewhat arcane.
And another thing, how does blink work? Can you choose where you wanty to blink to, or is it just faceforeward. I hate blink, i never know where to look after you after you blinked!
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- Warrior vs Mage
Warrior vs MageFollow
Sesseth wrote:
And another thing, how does blink work? Can you choose where you wanty to blink to, or is it just faceforeward. I hate blink, i never know where to look after you after you blinked!
Blink is forward only, but unless stunned, they can turn very quickly to fool you.
I would ask in the warrior forums as here you may get answers like:
Use your charge thingy and stun thingy... then do the 2K crit thingy and we die.
I have *no* idea what warriors can do, so I wish I could help you... wait... do I want to help you kill me? hmmmmm....
Use your charge thingy and stun thingy... then do the 2K crit thingy and we die.
I have *no* idea what warriors can do, so I wish I could help you... wait... do I want to help you kill me? hmmmmm....
Charge.
He should frostnova now and try to sheep. Trinket it and pummel before applying hamstring.
He should now hit you with a 60% snare called cone of cold (if he misses it then you can pretty much own him unless he Iceblocks). Hit him until he gets out of range. If you have imp hamstring/mace spec or he misses CoC you can really lay down a beating here.
If at any point he blinks, Intercept him. Do not use otherwise except if you find yourself really far away for some reason or if he summons Water Elemental. if he does this and you are not next to him, intercept him and kill the elemental.
When being kited, use spell reflect when fireblast cooldown ends.
Basically you have to hope he panics or fails at CoC (or, if so specced, you get imp hamstring/mace procs).
He should frostnova now and try to sheep. Trinket it and pummel before applying hamstring.
He should now hit you with a 60% snare called cone of cold (if he misses it then you can pretty much own him unless he Iceblocks). Hit him until he gets out of range. If you have imp hamstring/mace spec or he misses CoC you can really lay down a beating here.
If at any point he blinks, Intercept him. Do not use otherwise except if you find yourself really far away for some reason or if he summons Water Elemental. if he does this and you are not next to him, intercept him and kill the elemental.
When being kited, use spell reflect when fireblast cooldown ends.
Basically you have to hope he panics or fails at CoC (or, if so specced, you get imp hamstring/mace procs).
Frankly - asking a mage about the strategies that a warrior should use against us isn't a great strategy.
From my lvl 5 Warrior I can tell you that you should probably run around in the snow and chop up wolves. Seriously - how is my lvl 5 WAR running around with no coat, arms exposed, in the snow.
Realistic answer:
You need to stop us from casting. Stun, silence, interupt, whatever it takes. I'm not at 70, but the issue you (WAR) have is that at my level I can most likely instant cast you to death. (Meaning a WAR at my lvl) Combine that with the fact that I can slow or stun you....
Honestly - Warriors are the easiest thing to kill. You can't heal and your pretty much must melee me....
I don't know - maybe as the War forum?
From my lvl 5 Warrior I can tell you that you should probably run around in the snow and chop up wolves. Seriously - how is my lvl 5 WAR running around with no coat, arms exposed, in the snow.
Realistic answer:
You need to stop us from casting. Stun, silence, interupt, whatever it takes. I'm not at 70, but the issue you (WAR) have is that at my level I can most likely instant cast you to death. (Meaning a WAR at my lvl) Combine that with the fact that I can slow or stun you....
Honestly - Warriors are the easiest thing to kill. You can't heal and your pretty much must melee me....
I don't know - maybe as the War forum?
Borsuk wrote:
Honestly - Warriors are the easiest thing to kill. You can't heal and your pretty much must melee me....
Pretty much. It's really all about controlling both where you are and where the mage is. And vice versa for the mage.
Unfortunately, our abilities as mages make us experts at keeping warriors away.
17 posts
I agree with the others about posting this in the warrior forum but I'll help ya. Start the battle off with a charge then hamstring, from there i would recommend switching stances to beserker. Once in beserker keep beating on them if the oppurtunity arises usually the mage in question will frost nova then proceed to blink away. When he novas you should have enough rage from charge and the hit you should have landed to intimidating shout him. So shout and unclick him so you dont strike him just be patient click your blood rage and wait for nova to break. By now you should have a MS rdy so use it then he should blink away, intercept and finish him if he tries to cast slap him with pummel.
If hes frost as most mages are some little tricks you have to learn if he uses elemental your pretty much done because said mage can freeze you in place twice once with nova one once from pet ability so usually we warriors lose thisone unless you pop something crazy like reck and avoid the kitage. if no elemental and he pops ice block like most will bandage up and be patient anticipate the blink and catch the mage.
The main trick with mages is to just get a hold of em Fire mages arent as hard in my opinion due to the fact that they dont have barrier and anoyying slow. i know its not to detailed but if ya got more questions just pm me I am just trying to give you the general idea. Oh and one more thing make sure the mage is clicked when you Intim shout so hes rooted in position
If hes frost as most mages are some little tricks you have to learn if he uses elemental your pretty much done because said mage can freeze you in place twice once with nova one once from pet ability so usually we warriors lose thisone unless you pop something crazy like reck and avoid the kitage. if no elemental and he pops ice block like most will bandage up and be patient anticipate the blink and catch the mage.
The main trick with mages is to just get a hold of em Fire mages arent as hard in my opinion due to the fact that they dont have barrier and anoyying slow. i know its not to detailed but if ya got more questions just pm me I am just trying to give you the general idea. Oh and one more thing make sure the mage is clicked when you Intim shout so hes rooted in position
Get a 1hander and a shield - then pwn mages with spellreflect when interception is on CD. and use spamstring whenever you get near them so you get more time to hit them with that big 2-hander of yours. There you are, mage problem solved (if you manage to execute it perfectly).
Oh, and reroll gnome XD escape artist is THAT badass
Oh, and reroll gnome XD escape artist is THAT badass
Thanks mages! I realize now that I should have posted it in the warrior forum, but I got what I needed. I was interested in weaknesses...
See you on the battleground :D
See you on the battleground :D
Scholar
23 posts
hold on, he see's warrior own mages all the time? where is he playing?
besides we all know the best ans is to get a healer!
besides we all know the best ans is to get a healer!
How does a warrior defeat a mage? Simple.
Reroll a lock or a rogue.
That should do quite nicely.
Reroll a lock or a rogue.
That should do quite nicely.
My advice, based on fights against warriors and mages as my mage and my warrior:
Don't fight mages. =D
Okay, seriously now.
Arcane Mages: Seriously, who uses Arcane for damage? XD The only things you ever have to worry about from an Arcane-specced mage are Slow (which can really **** you off if they're Arcane/Frost) and PoM-Pyro (which is something that, as a Warrior, you really, really need to worry about). Try to Intercept as much as you can (most mages will try to get as far away as possible; sometimes you won't even have to back up). Drain all your rage on your best attacks when they're stunned. Either they have Mana Shield up, so you'll drain huge chunks of their mana, or they don't, so you'll drain huge chunks of their health if not the whole bar. Either way, it's a good thing. Of course, they'll try and Nova+Blink once the stun wears off. Stay where you are and either bandage through their inevitable counter-attacks or blast them with a ranged weapon (again, they either lose more mana or health, and if they lose health there's also the small bit of mid-cast stun). Always fear the worst when you're unable to attack effectively (sheep, nova, Slow, etc.).
Fire Mages: You have virtually nothing to fear from them, because Fire-specced mages have neither PoM-Pyro and/or Slow, nor the defenses of Frost. Again, Intercept often. They'll never be able to win if all they're doing is using Nova and Blink and watching their mana bar shrink. Because of the insta-damage spells Fire mages have, and Ignite, Berserker Rage is your friend. Watch out for Impact proccing from Molten Armor. Blazing Speed will annoy you.
Frost: The toughest spec to kill by far. They can trap you, slow you down no matter what you're doing and kite you to the grave, summon Elementals, and all the while remain completely invincible thanks to Ice Barrier (if they have enough mp5 that they can regenerate as much as Ice Barrier costs, or more than its cost, before it runs out, you're in trouble). Frost mages also have the least prep. time of the specs (meaning they can get the good stuff out the fastest). Try to stay in their face as much as you can. Use Hamstring at your first opportunity and chase them; don't always just let them run away and then Intercept. Pummel the spells out of them and Intercept whenever you get a chance. If they put up Ice Barrier, try to break it before 30 seconds pass, because after that they can just cast another whenever they want. You may have to dump a bit of your rage into this but it's worth it. Watch out for Frostbite and Icy Veins. And Cold Snap. And CoC. And Blizzard. And the Elemental. And...you know what, watch out for everything.
If a mage IceBlocks: Either wait, time a Slam or other attacks so it hits right when the effect is up, or run away so you can Intercept them when the effect is up.
Don't fight mages. =D
Okay, seriously now.
Arcane Mages: Seriously, who uses Arcane for damage? XD The only things you ever have to worry about from an Arcane-specced mage are Slow (which can really **** you off if they're Arcane/Frost) and PoM-Pyro (which is something that, as a Warrior, you really, really need to worry about). Try to Intercept as much as you can (most mages will try to get as far away as possible; sometimes you won't even have to back up). Drain all your rage on your best attacks when they're stunned. Either they have Mana Shield up, so you'll drain huge chunks of their mana, or they don't, so you'll drain huge chunks of their health if not the whole bar. Either way, it's a good thing. Of course, they'll try and Nova+Blink once the stun wears off. Stay where you are and either bandage through their inevitable counter-attacks or blast them with a ranged weapon (again, they either lose more mana or health, and if they lose health there's also the small bit of mid-cast stun). Always fear the worst when you're unable to attack effectively (sheep, nova, Slow, etc.).
Fire Mages: You have virtually nothing to fear from them, because Fire-specced mages have neither PoM-Pyro and/or Slow, nor the defenses of Frost. Again, Intercept often. They'll never be able to win if all they're doing is using Nova and Blink and watching their mana bar shrink. Because of the insta-damage spells Fire mages have, and Ignite, Berserker Rage is your friend. Watch out for Impact proccing from Molten Armor. Blazing Speed will annoy you.
Frost: The toughest spec to kill by far. They can trap you, slow you down no matter what you're doing and kite you to the grave, summon Elementals, and all the while remain completely invincible thanks to Ice Barrier (if they have enough mp5 that they can regenerate as much as Ice Barrier costs, or more than its cost, before it runs out, you're in trouble). Frost mages also have the least prep. time of the specs (meaning they can get the good stuff out the fastest). Try to stay in their face as much as you can. Use Hamstring at your first opportunity and chase them; don't always just let them run away and then Intercept. Pummel the spells out of them and Intercept whenever you get a chance. If they put up Ice Barrier, try to break it before 30 seconds pass, because after that they can just cast another whenever they want. You may have to dump a bit of your rage into this but it's worth it. Watch out for Frostbite and Icy Veins. And Cold Snap. And CoC. And Blizzard. And the Elemental. And...you know what, watch out for everything.
If a mage IceBlocks: Either wait, time a Slam or other attacks so it hits right when the effect is up, or run away so you can Intercept them when the effect is up.
Recent Visitors: 174
All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (174)
- Forums
- World of Warcraft
- Class Discussion
- Warrior vs Mage
© 2024 Fanbyte LLC