undergeared heroic PUGs T_TFollow

Wow, your group=winnah!

No offense, but if you're the tank, you have the power to pick and chose, and I defintely wouldn't have picked them. The warrior obviously needs to learn that the Carrot on a Stick and Riding Crop don't stack and that 61 points into a talent tree are never good.

I feel your pain bro. I can't stand all the new people trying to do Heroics in their greens now that they only have to be honored. GG. Can't save em all I guess. Better luck next time.

That warrior has Mace, Polearm, AND Sword specialization.

Improved rend!?

Good God!

/wrists

What has this world come to!?

Wow...he has as much hp as my warrior has in farm/dps gear O.O

Sometimes, I wonder if the time I spent getting some of my stuff is worth it xD

Anyways, I don't really blame him if he didn't have the proper "guidance". There's an adorable little girl in my guild and she has 61 points in Beastmastery because she likes it. I know her dad and we agree to let her stay that way since she's having a lot of fun pvping. That's what matters :)

Back on topic.

Yeah, this guy is pretty bad considering that he's actually doing heroics with 61 points in Arms. Very sad about his profession though. 51 enchanting and he still has a free profession slot. Well, I'm glad I did my research and stuff...so I don't laughed at >_>

In our guild, we will try heroics with anyone regardless of gear but we also tend to move slow and careful. A typical guild heroic run will often have one or two marginally geared players and it's usually not an issue though we also tend to stick to the easier heroics for the new 70s. We are considering making heroic participation a requirement for Kara as they seem to require a similar level of gear and teamwork.

While I agree that merely having honored rep with a faction is not enough to make a person 'ready' for heroics, a person has to begin somewhere and they aren't likely to be starting out in epic gear. Being less geared means that the group will take longer and will have to be more careful.

The only thing I can find really wrong with the hunter is gear, but it's not 'OMGwtf' bad gear. Honestly, he should be able to DPS heroics in that, ASSUMING he knows what he's doing. BM is the most gear friendly spec on the planet, on the most gear friendly class in the game. He's undergeared, but who the hell wasn't at one point?

The warrior though...wow. This guy is no champ either, a buddy of mine almost ran with him last night..until he realized this was the TANK for the heroic. It's awesome that someone can go 37 points into prot and not bother to get Defiance...or go 4 more in and get Devastate, for that matter.

I find his use of gems to be interesting. He's gemmed some of his better tanking pieces with DPS type gems and gemmed his Ragesteel shoulders with tanking gems.

I guess he felt it was better to specialize in two-handed weapons and poleaxes rather than get devestate. From looking at his talent points, maybe his tanking plan is to keep his target bleeding and stunned (3 points in imp revenge) rather than the more traditional approach of using threat to keep a mob off the squishies. I think if I was trying to use deep wounds and poleaxe spec to increase crit chance, I would have put points into Impale rather than the two-handed weapons. I would also have found a way to max out cruelty to increase crit chance to get deep wounds to proc more.

Man, outside of PVP gear my hunter really outgears that hunter and he's just my goldfarmer that's ran MAYBE 3 70 instances total.

Edit: oh wow, that warrior. Oh... wow. That's just... oh. Man.

Edited, Jan 16th 2008 3:22pm by Lorimath

I don't think it is the Hunter's gear so much that is the problem. He is not the best geared player but...

His spec is lacking somewhat. 51 points in BeastMastery tree is well... pointless. the most anyone should need in that tree is 44 and thats to get everything they need.

I am with Pigeon on this for the hunter. He looks like he can be saved... prolly never seen any forum to help guide this individual.