I needed a break from the 70 grind, so I started playing my draenei hunter. And as I’ve never managed to keep a flying pet, I’ve been leveling with a vulture named Beaky. I finally have +100% focus regeneration, so I’m about to redo his skills.
After I train some new pet skills I plan to have growl, dive, claw and screech. At the moment he has bite instead of claw. And with focus regeneration screech goes off a lot. It’s great for holding agro, but once I go with claw I’ll have two instant cast skills. Will having screech on auto cast cut down on claw DPS? In general I don’t really care. I can kill things fast enough if all my pet does is growl, as long as it keeps agro. But if my pet helps kill things even faster I’m certainly not going to complain.
So, those of you with screech experience, what do you like to do when leveling? Do you leave it on auto cast or do you click it when you feel it’s needed? I realize instances and PvP are worlds unto themselves. But for now all I need to worry about is leveling.
As an aside, screech is really loud. I grouped up with someone last night to do a couple of quests and by the end of our group I think he was ready to join the mobs in trying to kill my bird.
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I have bite and screech and I use my bird mostly for soloing so having screech on auto cast is handy to keep eventual adds on her.
Otherwise I take it off together with growl only if my warrior friend is grumpy to prevent some nasty remarks about getting headache.
I do have all specials hotkeyed for manual use though.
For instances I use cat.
Otherwise I take it off together with growl only if my warrior friend is grumpy to prevent some nasty remarks about getting headache.
I do have all specials hotkeyed for manual use though.
For instances I use cat.
Same as previous; Owl for solo PvE, Cat for PvP and Instance PvE.
Owl with 100 % focus reg, Bite, Screech and Growl on autocast.
Edit: Bite instead of Claw -_-
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 1:23pm by Nubkek
Owl with 100 % focus reg, Bite, Screech and Growl on autocast.
Edit: Bite instead of Claw -_-
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 1:23pm by Nubkek
While leveling up, I had an owl or carrion bird with claw, screech, dive and growl. While fighting single mobs I'll have screech off and claw on. When fighting multiples, I'll have claw off and screech on. I'll hit the claw button manually when focus permits. With multiple mobs screech can usually prevent one of the adds from peeling off and coming to me. Sometimes I can pull the mob being attacked however unless I feign death.
My 70 hunter ditched the owl for a carrion bird's greater armor and easier to satisfy diet. My level 51 hunter has an owl for the greater DPS. If the owl's lack of armor becomes a problem, I'll just do that quest in another level or two. That's not an option once one gets to 70. I use my carrion bird most often for instance runs and spam screech there too. The screech debuff minimizes damage to tank and rogue which saves on healer mana and helps prevent the healer from pulling aggro.
I find the flapping bird in my face an irritant. I put up with it for screech. A bat's wings are enough larger than a bird's that I won't go for one of those.
I wish crabs, the ultimate low profile pet, had something unique to make them useful.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 12:00pm by ItsaGaAs
My 70 hunter ditched the owl for a carrion bird's greater armor and easier to satisfy diet. My level 51 hunter has an owl for the greater DPS. If the owl's lack of armor becomes a problem, I'll just do that quest in another level or two. That's not an option once one gets to 70. I use my carrion bird most often for instance runs and spam screech there too. The screech debuff minimizes damage to tank and rogue which saves on healer mana and helps prevent the healer from pulling aggro.
I find the flapping bird in my face an irritant. I put up with it for screech. A bat's wings are enough larger than a bird's that I won't go for one of those.
I wish crabs, the ultimate low profile pet, had something unique to make them useful.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 12:00pm by ItsaGaAs
ItsaGaAs wrote:
I use my carrion bird most often for instance runs and spam screech there too.
I must admit to being surprised by that. Screech is, more or less, and AoE growl as well as a debuff. Doesn’t using screech pull agro to your pet?
ItsaGaAs wrote:
I wish crabs, the ultimate low profile pet, had something unique to make them useful.
I’ve though about having a red crab pet. I even tried it once. But having only claw would be a pain until I got focus regeneration. And then there is their lack of any kind of movement enhancement. I do have a few pets without it, such as my black widow spider and my albino crocolisk, but I do so miss dash/dive, charge or warp when my pet doesn’t have it.
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I wish crabs, the ultimate low profile pet, had something unique to make them useful.
I can't agree more. I have a crab in my stable that I've had since level 15 or so. I love the fact that he is ground level and doesn't get in the way. He has great armor...but nothing else really going for him. I would pull him out in a second if he received a decent family skill.
Yeah, screech is an AOE that can pull aggro. That's part of the reason why a carrion bird with the extra armor helps. He needs to be able to absorb a swing or two before the tank reestablishes aggro. A warrior or feral druid will have little trouble getting back aggro with his normal taunts. (I've been the huntard and forgot to turn off growl before. That's enough to firmly keep aggro on my soon-to-be-dead bird.)
Screech does not break freeze-trapped mobs, sheeped mobs nor shackled mobs. He can off-tank in 'oh sh*t' situations and not die in one swing (typically about three if the priest doesn't help out :p ). These reasons move carrion birds to the top of the heap for raid pets, IMO. I used him to tank Murmur for the last 2% of his health after the warrior croaked last week. Priest heals and my heal were necessary to keep him up. (Still no sonic spear, sigh.)
However if you're blessed with excellent tankage (rather rare in my experience) then take along your ravager.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 3:07pm by ItsaGaAs
Screech does not break freeze-trapped mobs, sheeped mobs nor shackled mobs. He can off-tank in 'oh sh*t' situations and not die in one swing (typically about three if the priest doesn't help out :p ). These reasons move carrion birds to the top of the heap for raid pets, IMO. I used him to tank Murmur for the last 2% of his health after the warrior croaked last week. Priest heals and my heal were necessary to keep him up. (Still no sonic spear, sigh.)
However if you're blessed with excellent tankage (rather rare in my experience) then take along your ravager.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 3:07pm by ItsaGaAs
All that I could think of when reading this thread was
FREEBIRD!!!
Anyways, just to contribute, I use an owl when soloing, in the case that I don't want to have a small DPS from my cat/ravager.
Thanks for saying this now, I went around for the longest time thinking that the tiny amount of damage that Screech did was AoE along with the AP reduction. Not really, around the first 30 minutes that I had an owl, but whatever.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 8:41pm by Yuppley
FREEBIRD!!!
Anyways, just to contribute, I use an owl when soloing, in the case that I don't want to have a small DPS from my cat/ravager.
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Screech does not break freeze-trapped mobs, sheeped mobs nor shackled mobs.
Thanks for saying this now, I went around for the longest time thinking that the tiny amount of damage that Screech did was AoE along with the AP reduction. Not really, around the first 30 minutes that I had an owl, but whatever.
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 8:41pm by Yuppley
ItsaGaAs wrote:
He can off-tank in 'oh sh*t' situations and not die in one swing (typically about three if the priest doesn't help out :p ). These reasons move carrion birds to the top of the heap for raid pets, IMO.
I dont think any pet could OT more than normal 70 instances at best and for just a short time. I wouldnt even try in heroics.
I took 9.5k crit from some trash in Kara last week on my lock... just an example.
Owls have long been my choice of pets, yes plural. Right now I have 3 of them.
I haven't noticed auto-Screech interfering with pet DpS when used with Claw. I have both GftT and BD but I do notice it recasts rather prematurely, and out of superstition (perhaps?) I keep claw to the left of screech on the pet bar (read something about sequence of activation from left to right, never bothered to check it). I don't know how it compares to a cats DpS in parse samples, but I do plan to tame a cat now that I finally got bored enough to PvP with my hunter. That 3% DpS difference is bound to count more the higher that AP goes.
Owls (Carrions) are fun for PvP with Screech especially when you cast mend pet then send it into large groups of melee (debuff the whole damn lot of 'em) maybe fire a couple DoTs, shots, and traps then run away until your pet despawns. /rinse /repeat.
The Screech AP debuff is great for PvE / Leveling. Long ago I said it: Armor > Stamina since HoT is a timed effect, you want to make that more efficient in whatever way you can. Reducing incoming damage is simply one more way to make your pet last longer and reduce the need for casting mend pet. Besides, I've got enough buttons to push already, why the hell would I want to make another one? Hehe
I haven't noticed auto-Screech interfering with pet DpS when used with Claw. I have both GftT and BD but I do notice it recasts rather prematurely, and out of superstition (perhaps?) I keep claw to the left of screech on the pet bar (read something about sequence of activation from left to right, never bothered to check it). I don't know how it compares to a cats DpS in parse samples, but I do plan to tame a cat now that I finally got bored enough to PvP with my hunter. That 3% DpS difference is bound to count more the higher that AP goes.
Owls (Carrions) are fun for PvP with Screech especially when you cast mend pet then send it into large groups of melee (debuff the whole damn lot of 'em) maybe fire a couple DoTs, shots, and traps then run away until your pet despawns. /rinse /repeat.
The Screech AP debuff is great for PvE / Leveling. Long ago I said it: Armor > Stamina since HoT is a timed effect, you want to make that more efficient in whatever way you can. Reducing incoming damage is simply one more way to make your pet last longer and reduce the need for casting mend pet. Besides, I've got enough buttons to push already, why the hell would I want to make another one? Hehe
While I can understand the benefits of flying pets, I must admit that there is one situation where I hate them. Raids. I hate it when our hunters bring them to raids, they flap in my face and get in the way. :D
Yeah, I'm talking having my bird off-tank on normal not heroic instances. And even then not for too long. I've only recently started the heroics.
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That is the reason I like my owl for PvP.... it flaps in THEIR face and pisses them off.... :D
anything to help...
-Paul
anything to help...
-Paul
Been using carrion birds from 17 to 70, and i always had Dive, Growl, Screech and bite.
The difference in damage between screech and bite really isnt that massive so i'd rather have bite then 2 abilities that dont work together.
And i always leave screech on autocast as well as using my pet in instances because -210 AP is a neat debuff.
And it doesnt do much more in the way of aggro then setting up a small block between the mobs and the healer.
The difference in damage between screech and bite really isnt that massive so i'd rather have bite then 2 abilities that dont work together.
And i always leave screech on autocast as well as using my pet in instances because -210 AP is a neat debuff.
And it doesnt do much more in the way of aggro then setting up a small block between the mobs and the healer.
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