Ok, dilema time I guess. I was asked to OT in kara, but as it stands, I'm not geared up to be a fury OT. As OT, you tank in your normal of 490 def, correct? just go into berserk or battle stances? What about remaining protect or am I expected to be fury and just melee in tanking gear?
Anyone that's able to, give me a rundown on how a fight generally goes, as this is my first time doing any "raid" type things in WoW.
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Ok, dilema time I guess. I was asked to OT in kara, but as it stands, I'm not geared up to be a fury OT. As OT, you tank in your normal of 490 def, correct? just go into berserk or battle stances? What about remaining protect or am I expected to be fury and just melee in tanking gear?
Anyone that's able to, give me a rundown on how a fight generally goes, as this is my first time doing any "raid" type things in WoW.
Anyone that's able to, give me a rundown on how a fight generally goes, as this is my first time doing any "raid" type things in WoW.
DW fury OT build
my experimental SS + 2/2 imp. slam build
31/5/20 OT MS+prot build
on a pull when you have to offtank, put on your full tanking set, get the mob on you and follow your normal rotation. not being full prot won't hurt you threat-wise, as you'll have plenty of time to establish a threat lead. most of your avoidance and mitigation will come from gear, so don't worry about missing points in toughness and vitality. on single pulls, wear dps gear and swing away.
dont use a OT on curator if you want someone to soake the bolts, use a warlock that knows how to handle threat, easy for em to stay second threat and they got ******** of HP, dont use resistance gear
my 2 cents, good luck
my 2 cents, good luck
It depends on what you're doing. If you're tanking a mob, go into Defensive Stance, with a shield on, and use tanking gear.
Spec is helpful, but what gear you have on is the far bigger determinate as to what you'll be doing. Prot can do decent DPS in DPS gear, and Fury can tank decently in tanking gear. You don't need any points in it - just need a decent set of tanking pieces. Check the gear sticky for ideas.
Spec is helpful, but what gear you have on is the far bigger determinate as to what you'll be doing. Prot can do decent DPS in DPS gear, and Fury can tank decently in tanking gear. You don't need any points in it - just need a decent set of tanking pieces. Check the gear sticky for ideas.
I offtanked Karazhan for my first run. I was in a similar thought process as you, so I asked the raid leader what I should do. I stayed in my Arms / Fury spec (I actually did respec to try out a good PVE dps spec, I'll probably respec again next Kara run as I think I'm going to MT it). I have Itemrack, so I can swap tank and dps gear with a single button press. If I was asked to offtank, I would look at the mob and decide what gear I was going to wear. If it wasn't a boss, and it was just a 2 pull, I would generally stay in my DPS gear and use a sword and board. Then again, I have a lot of HP in my DPS gear, with buffs I was over 11K HP. Sometimes the mobs I was offtanking were harder hitters, so I would swap into full tank gear. Others, like the Wizard of Oz fight, I was asked to pull Toto off the healers and I didn't even use a shield on that fight.
Ask more knowledgeable people how tough the fight is. If you don't feel like you have a good tank or dps set, then I would put on my tank set for every pull I offtanked.
As offtank, you can be expected to offtank Moroes, because he will gouge the tank and begin attacking whoever is second on the aggro list. So basically you will fight for aggro the whole fight. A druid tank would actually be better for this, as they can get some great snap aggro and they get rage more easily by just attacking. You will also be expected to offtank Attumen. Basically it's a dude with a Horse. Main tank starts off on the Horse, then Attumen appears. Offtank picks up Attumen until he combines with the horse, then MT picks him back up and you finish the fight by dpsing.
There'll also be lots of trash pulls where you offtank mobs, in case you don't have enough DPS. When you are tanking anything, always stay in defensive stance. You gain way more threat in defensive stance.
Ask more knowledgeable people how tough the fight is. If you don't feel like you have a good tank or dps set, then I would put on my tank set for every pull I offtanked.
As offtank, you can be expected to offtank Moroes, because he will gouge the tank and begin attacking whoever is second on the aggro list. So basically you will fight for aggro the whole fight. A druid tank would actually be better for this, as they can get some great snap aggro and they get rage more easily by just attacking. You will also be expected to offtank Attumen. Basically it's a dude with a Horse. Main tank starts off on the Horse, then Attumen appears. Offtank picks up Attumen until he combines with the horse, then MT picks him back up and you finish the fight by dpsing.
There'll also be lots of trash pulls where you offtank mobs, in case you don't have enough DPS. When you are tanking anything, always stay in defensive stance. You gain way more threat in defensive stance.
I suggest switching to Defensive stance with out a doubt on trash pulls. The mobs after chess between Prince will hit like trucks.
Off tanking Illhoof you can tank that little imp in berserk or w/e... but that's such a mana dependant fight on the healers with the demon chain healing... why make them spend more mana?
On Currator you can go DPS gear and just help take the bolts down faster.
Then shade as MT I even go dps gear and berserker stance thru the fight, pummel helps him save his mana. The locks usually handle the elements, and shade does not hit hard, also he changes aggro, so there's really no need for a actual tank (maybe just to help pick up the elements.. but dps gear is fine)... just make sure you have over 10k health. AoE pyro will do 9k should he get a chance to do it.
So short answer is yes, change to D. Stance and equip your tanking set. Long answer is yes... with exceptions (see above).
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 10:20am by GYFFORD
Off tanking Illhoof you can tank that little imp in berserk or w/e... but that's such a mana dependant fight on the healers with the demon chain healing... why make them spend more mana?
On Currator you can go DPS gear and just help take the bolts down faster.
Then shade as MT I even go dps gear and berserker stance thru the fight, pummel helps him save his mana. The locks usually handle the elements, and shade does not hit hard, also he changes aggro, so there's really no need for a actual tank (maybe just to help pick up the elements.. but dps gear is fine)... just make sure you have over 10k health. AoE pyro will do 9k should he get a chance to do it.
So short answer is yes, change to D. Stance and equip your tanking set. Long answer is yes... with exceptions (see above).
Edited, Jan 14th 2008 10:20am by GYFFORD
As someone who just recently started off-tanking Kara as Fury, I'm pretty much in the same boat. You can offtank fine as 17/44/0(its what i am atm). I suggest you pick up Item rack(This mod is the shiz, a must imo). What it does it lets you switch between prot and fury gear in two clicks. You're going to need a tanking set taht consists of 490def(as fury, so no anticipation). You want I would say a minimum of 10.5k HP unbuffed(i have 11.3k), and you will tank in defensive stance as if you were prot. There's no way you're going to be able to offtank in dps gear and in beserker stance, you'll get two shotted at the most.
As far as the rest of the stuff, I suggest read up on the fights(knowledge of the encounter is half the battle) and read the post above me by Gyff, good info there imo.
As far as the rest of the stuff, I suggest read up on the fights(knowledge of the encounter is half the battle) and read the post above me by Gyff, good info there imo.
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I suggest you pick up Item rack(This mod is the shiz, a must imo).
-Max DPS
-Soloing (with HP regen mushroom trinket)
-2H'er (with my 2H weapon)
of course
-Tanking (just standard +dodge, and not so much worried about HP)
-Boss tanking (Not so much on the +dodge, and more HP/armor)
I'm sure either work. I'll have to check out the item rack one tho
Itemrack, Outfitter and (I think) Closet Gnome are all basically the same. Different UI but the purpose is the same.
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