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#1 Jan 12 2008 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone have some ballpark numbers for what I'd need to tank ZA?

Currently sitting at 15k hps, 26k armor for 71.11% mit and 33.42% dodge unbuffed
#2 Jan 12 2008 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
Looks like a good start point.

For reference, I've for 15.5K, 32K armor, and about 37-40% dodge unbuffed. We haven't cleared too far ZA, but I'm one of the most well-geared folks in my guild so it's not just concietedness that makes me say it's not because of me. I didn't have any issues tanking bear or eagle.

Do note that a solid pally tank makes a lot of tough parts trivial. ZA really promotes tank cooperation above having one really good one.
#3 Jan 13 2008 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for #s. I'm paying a raider for the Belt of Natural Power which should be ready soon, and I'm waiting for Badge of Tenacity to drop below 3000 gold on the AH. Once I get those two I guess I'll be all set.

We usually run it with either of our two protadins.

My guild has already cleared it repeatedly and most of them are better geared than me, but I believe in putting out my best and not dragging down everyone else.
#4 Jan 13 2008 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
Whatsit wrote:
Thanks for #s. I'm paying a raider for the Belt of Natural Power which should be ready soon, and I'm waiting for Badge of Tenacity to drop below 3000 gold on the AH. Once I get those two I guess I'll be all set.

We usually run it with either of our two protadins.

My guild has already cleared it repeatedly and most of them are better geared than me, but I believe in putting out my best and not dragging down everyone else.


3000 gold? Ouch man, that's harsh. I spent 1.1K gold on mine. I don't know if I would've bought it if it were that high.

I believe the same way as you do. I can't feel good about myself as a player if I'm getting carried through content, or not trying my best. It makes me a bit irked to inspect someone in a raid that is using cheap 2 gold gems instead of 35 gold gems that are a lot better.
#5 Jan 13 2008 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
I killed mobs for a while to get mine. Pardon me while I feel superior to you two.

Ahhh, that felt good. Back to business.

The Belt of Natural Power is great, but you may also want to look at the Waistguard of the Great Beast from badges. It's not as good for tanking but it does have +hit, which can be quite handy. There's also the Brooch of Deftness from badges that has +hit and expertise, which is similarly useful.

It's not a clear choice for either, just something I thought I'd mention for considering. If everyone's well-geared, threat may (or may not) be more of an issue that squishiness.
#6 Jan 13 2008 at 2:39 PM Rating: Decent
selebrin of the Seven Seas wrote:
I killed mobs for a while to get mine. Pardon me while I feel superior to you two.

Ahhh, that felt good. Back to business.

The Belt of Natural Power is great, but you may also want to look at the Waistguard of the Great Beast from badges. It's not as good for tanking but it does have +hit, which can be quite handy. There's also the Brooch of Deftness from badges that has +hit and expertise, which is similarly useful.

It's not a clear choice for either, just something I thought I'd mention for considering. If everyone's well-geared, threat may (or may not) be more of an issue that squishiness.


You wanna feel real superior to me? I've had 2 Badges of Tenacity before I really started leveling my Druid as a tank. The first, I thought it looked like a crappy trinket, I had no idea how a bear tank geared up. I thought it looked like one of the crappy blues I could never sell. So I sold it for 25 gold. Yeah... 25. Second one, I knew what I had on my hands, and got 1.2K gold for it.

Then I started leveling my Druid and fell in love with bear tanking. I had to have one of my own.
#7 Jan 13 2008 at 2:53 PM Rating: Decent
Lorimath wrote:


You wanna feel real superior to me? I've had 2 Badges of Tenacity before I really started leveling my Druid as a tank. The first, I thought it looked like a crappy trinket, I had no idea how a bear tank geared up. I thought it looked like one of the crappy blues I could never sell. So I sold it for 25 gold. Yeah... 25. Second one, I knew what I had on my hands, and got 1.2K gold for it.

Then I started leveling my Druid and fell in love with bear tanking. I had to have one of my own.


Ouch. It was meant more tongue-in-cheek. I was one of the guys keeping the average down against all the "I got it in six kills" folks. About two months of solid grinding. Good for cash though.
#8 Jan 14 2008 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Took me several weeks of grinding boars and crystal flayers to get my badge. If you are a leatherworker though the boars really give you good leather to work with, and you can get the depleted crystal focus for healing if you don't plan on using them for the quest. I had a warrior yesterday telling me my badge sucked because it's a blue. He had less than 10k armor btw, I have about 20k in bear, go fig.
#9 Jan 14 2008 at 11:47 PM Rating: Good
According to Wowhead (and similar figures here), if you are just grinding mobs (not the elite summons) in Blades Edge, then the best mob is the Bash'ir Raider which has dropped 7 in 50675 kills.

That means on average you would have to kill 7239 of them to get one. If someone got one in 6 kills, then someone might be the unlucky one and take 15000 kills to get one :)

Go kill 7000 elementals somewhere and sell the primals - you'll be able to buy several badges :)


Seriously though - if you can practice the Shartuul event, it has a 14% drop chance! and you can sell the other drops if you don't need them. Just don't ask me for tips, I have failed miserably on the few times I have tried it.

If you can do it, it is probably the best moneymaker in the game.
#10 Jan 15 2008 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I have gotten 2 badges from shartuul, equipped one and sold the other for
1k gold. Along with that I have gotten the Ring of the Overseer, a few
Crystalweave bracers, the pala tanking sword and a heap of other mediocre blues.

Anyway, I was probably half way through revered before I fully mastered the event,
maybe I am a slow learner, but it does take some effort and can be tricky at times. Probably like 10 tries for me until I made it.

Since then I have been trying to farm it for cash, but it has to be one of the
most bugged events in WoW :( Several times I have beaten the second boss
waiting for the Eye of Shartuul to spawn, and it doesnt.
Sucks to lose a darkrune because of a buggy crap event.
Other bugs can occur as well that just screws you over.
But hell, I'd rather do all that again than farm normal mobs for the trinket.

A lot more rewarding as well, in addition you get the crystalforged trinket at
revered(?) and fairly good dps bracers at exalted :)
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