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Does anyone have a rough - or maybe even an exact - conversion for how much the 'Ignore Armor' stat affects AP? Is AP even the stat that would be directly influenced by IA? I've been meaning to ask this for awhile; any info would be helpful. Thanks.
As I understood it, it depends on how much armor the mob has to begin with. I was never into breaking WoW down into math so I'll let someone else drown you with numbers.
The less armor the target has, the more each point is worth. This means that ignored armor points are worth more the more you have, and they have more effect on targets that already have lower armor.
About 1k ignored on a plate wearer might be a 2% damage increase, but 1k off a clothie could be more like 8%.
It's the only stat that stacks well directly with itself.. But it's not easy to get a lot of. I'd say don't specifically try to get any until you find 3 nice pieces all with it.
About 1k ignored on a plate wearer might be a 2% damage increase, but 1k off a clothie could be more like 8%.
It's the only stat that stacks well directly with itself.. But it's not easy to get a lot of. I'd say don't specifically try to get any until you find 3 nice pieces all with it.
Ignore armor doesn't affect AP. Ignore armor affects your target's mitigation of your damage from armor rating.
For example, my raid buffed tooltip damage for auto-shot (not dps) is in the 670-770 range, yet on Kara mobs my shots typically land in the 500-600 damage range. That's owing to the target's mitigation of some of the damage I'm doing.
I read somewhere shortly after all the armor ignoring gear came out that even raid bosses only have something like 9k armor. In those cases, if you had 450 cumulative armor ignore, you would have 5% less damage mitigated. That wouldn't mean an increase of 5% dps...just 5% less mitigation.
Since I'm killing time, WoWWiki lists the following formula for calculating damage mitigation based on armor for level 73 raid bosses:
%Reduction for 73 = (Armor / (Armor + 11960)) * 100
So if that raid boss has 9k armor,
(9000 / (9000+11960)) * 100 = 42.9389%
And if you had 450 armor ignore, it would be:
(8550 / (8550+11960)) * 100 = 41.6869%
Which, if my half-concious brain is working at all, would be a dps increase of 1.2-1.3%.
For example, my raid buffed tooltip damage for auto-shot (not dps) is in the 670-770 range, yet on Kara mobs my shots typically land in the 500-600 damage range. That's owing to the target's mitigation of some of the damage I'm doing.
I read somewhere shortly after all the armor ignoring gear came out that even raid bosses only have something like 9k armor. In those cases, if you had 450 cumulative armor ignore, you would have 5% less damage mitigated. That wouldn't mean an increase of 5% dps...just 5% less mitigation.
Since I'm killing time, WoWWiki lists the following formula for calculating damage mitigation based on armor for level 73 raid bosses:
%Reduction for 73 = (Armor / (Armor + 11960)) * 100
So if that raid boss has 9k armor,
(9000 / (9000+11960)) * 100 = 42.9389%
And if you had 450 armor ignore, it would be:
(8550 / (8550+11960)) * 100 = 41.6869%
Which, if my half-concious brain is working at all, would be a dps increase of 1.2-1.3%.
I believe 100 IA is = to 10 AP or close to that
Raiding AP equivalences generally put AP at 1, Agility at just under 2, and Armor Penetration between .25 and .35. Armor Penetration will be worth less in non-raiding PvE because you won't have Sunder, Faerie Fire, and possibly Curse of Recklessness all on the mob to reduce the armor. Typical boss armor seems to be either 7700 or 6200, with a handful of exceptions.
lsfreak wrote:
Raiding AP equivalences generally put AP at 1, Agility at just under 2, and Armor Penetration between .25 and .35. Armor Penetration will be worth less in non-raiding PvE because you won't have Sunder, Faerie Fire, and possibly Curse of Recklessness all on the mob to reduce the armor. Typical boss armor seems to be either 7700 or 6200, with a handful of exceptions.
On the other hand normal/instance mobs have considerably less armor, although I don't have the exact numbers.
I do see that most Ignore Armor was BT/Hyjal before they put more into the Heroic Badge vendor. Numbers aside you'd expect if they put it on T6 gear that it would be really good vs raid bosses or BT/Hyjal bosses atleast.
lsfreak wrote:
Raiding AP equivalences generally put AP at 1, Agility at just under 2, and Armor Penetration between .25 and .35. Armor Penetration will be worth less in non-raiding PvE because you won't have Sunder, Faerie Fire, and possibly Curse of Recklessness all on the mob to reduce the armor. Typical boss armor seems to be either 7700 or 6200, with a handful of exceptions.
And it also is better for dps once you reach ~300 tooltip dps.
And that is easy, especially in raids.
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