level 65 huntard Follow

Ok I am a self admitted level 65 huntard a NOOB. I have read everything I can about how to be a better player and have gotten a lot better at doing quest that require soloing. When it comes to instances I fall short. I have tried and failed to complete as many instances as I can with no luck. I know not to pull to many people, lay traps to help the healer, don’t step on those eggs and bring a pet (a ghost kitty I have had since level 19). I just think I have better luck being by my self and I don’t want to miss a big part of the WOW experience like instances. My question is what I can do to become the ultimate instance ****. My armory page is http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&n=Pmel. Thank you for your advice ahead of time.

Once invited:
-Have your armor repaired
-Have food for you and your pet.
-Have arrows (enough to last a full instance)
-Offer to FP over to the summoning stone
-Always accept suggestions... if it's a good one, use it, if not just discard it. No need to start up a huge hissy fit because of one 'know-it-all lv70 on a different server' guy.
-Just be polite.... we're Hunters, not actually the rarest of classes and can be easily replaced (easier than a tank/healer) I mean.
-Try not to be flagged (if on a PvE server), nothing ticks me off more than waiting on someone who 'keeps getting ganked lololololllol', wasting time.
-Don't mess with flagged toons, again... time waster (unless the party all wants to, it can be fun).

Pet:
-Keep a eye out for your pet at ALL times.
-Keep him on passive and manually send him in per fight.
-Keep Growl off, unless told otherwise.
-Your pet is not the healers problem, you can heal him (mend pet), you can also call your pet out of AoE range if needed.
-A party member will always rate healing over your pet.

Trapping:
-Plant your Freeze trap as soon as possible (that will give your CD on Freeze a chance to expire for a quick retrap should it be resisted).
-Try to set the trap out of the way from AoE (if needed... Example: Tank's Thunder Clap for multi-aggro), so I set mine behind and off to the side of everyone.
-Shoot the 'trap marked mob' with a IC shot (Arc shot is the best), while the mob is walking your way you should already have switch to the 'skull/DPS target', sent pet in for little dps, and started your shot rotation... all before the mob gets frozen with Freeze trap #1.
-Don't DoT your trap marked mob.

Shot rotation:
-See one of the 10000 shot rotation posts XD
-Freign when you get too much aggro (before you make the mob run at you), having tanks/melee chasing the mob all over the place tends to tick them off. Freign Death will clear most of the threat you recieved, as long as it's not resisted... keep a eye out for that.
-Misdirect onto the tank on boss fights.
-If the mob runs at low health, feel free to shot a concus shot. Links in instances = teh sux.
-Multi-Shot is not a great thing. It'll un-CC mobs, it'll draw hate off a mob with only 1 or 2 Thunder Claps, on bosses it's ok, and when Misdirect pulling for a tank (multi-mobs)... On BGs Multi-shot is awesome... other places it's just ok, nothing a Steady shot or Arc shot can't substitute.

If you want to be a hardcore raider.. might want to go MM or SV. MM (*edit*OR recently found BM could be a bit higher, I myself like MM, to each their own lol) for the DPS (trueshot aura for the party dps), SV for the trapping (longer traps, less resists). I personally love MM, I was BM for a year, changed to start running BGs and wished I had changed sooner.



Backup tank?:
Use distracting shot off any mob that goes for your clothies. If that don't pull aggro, use freeze trap, Scatter shot, turn your pets growl back on and pray... anything to get that mob off your caster. Remember Mail armor > Cloth armor.... plus we got AotM and FD if needed.

As mentioned... what part of instances do you need help with? With practice it's much easier... did you shoot up to Outlands, not running any instances with him along the way? Not saying that's horrible... but you won't really be familiar with your party roll if you did.

*edit*
Final word of advice for now.
Just because we can use almost everything (except for Plate), DON'T NEED ON EVERYTHING. Concentrait on +hit, +crit, +agi. everything else is prolly made for another class that needs it more than you. "but it's epixxxxxx!!", Epic gear that belongs to us will come, don't give other people a reason to call you a Huntard for wearing all strength gear and such.

Edited, Jan 11th 2008 5:18pm by GYFFORD

Edited, Jan 18th 2008 9:22am by GYFFORD

Gyfford is totally right. Take what he said and run with it.

I have a question for you though... what, if any addons are you using? What do you have your settings set to? Can you see target of target? Do you have your cooldown timers on? Do you have a Quartz or something like it? Bartender? All of these and more are VERY useful to have and I dont want to go back to shot timeing, or trapping, or whatever without them.

Also, as was posted by KansasKyle, what problems are you having? We can much aid you far better with examples.

Hyrdo

*edit* Engrish is kicking my *** today.

Edited, Jan 11th 2008 5:00pm by rinkkel

Addons you absolutely NEED:
Zhuntermod (mainly for autoshot timer, but it also shows what you disspelled with arcane shot and reports who you misdirected to in /p, /raid, /y or pretty much any channel you want)
Fubar/titanbar (shows how much arrows, bagslots you have, geardmg, pcperformance and more)
Omen threatmeter, shows how much threat you have on a target and gives a warning when you pass a certain % of the tank/your pet's threat.
Invaluable in both solo and group play.

And ofcourse Auctioneer and Atlas/atlasloot, because an extra tool to help making money and checking out gear and maps in instances is never bad ;P

the top 3 make your life easier and enhance your performance in group and solo play.
And i wouldnt want to live without any of them =P

edit: the only other addons i use are Bartender 3 for a better looking and more practical UI and CTRaidAssist and Deadlybossmods for raiding.

Edited, Jan 12th 2008 2:44am by Aethien

Ring of Blood




Yes..you will have to pay depending on how many times you have already respecced.

1st time = 1 gold
2nd time = 5 gold
3rd time = 10 gold
4th time = 15 gold
5th time = 20 gold
hope you see the pattern by now :-)

When you retrain, it only takes away your talents, not your skills that you buy, so AotC will not be taken away.

He said AotC, which does not come from any talents; BW, TBW, Aimed, Scatter, TSA, Silencing, Counterattack, and WS are the only ones that you buy and have taken away when you respec.

Guess he didn't get the memo.

Stack AP. read the faq and threads here.

Just fyi, Strength is a completely useless stat for you. The items you have with strength also have agility and int/sta, and most of the gear show's you know what stats to get so they're ok, but you will be able to find much much better stuff. Never itemize for strength. Getting some cheap enchants also will often help. Gyff made some good points, so read that and ask any specific questions you have, as we'll be able to give you more pointed advice then.

The problem with knowing a higher level hunter then me is difficult. The guild I am in is made up of all new players and I am the highest :). I love my guild it is made up of all current or former military personal. I as a single player have had great success. When it was time to purchase my mounts (40 and 60) I had the gold needed and then some, when I DING 70 (68 ½ now) I have the money to get my flying mount (I can not wait). I have always had the highest gear and the best weapons. The problem I have now is the game mechanics change when you hit 70 and I have no one to ask on how to proceed so I do not make the same mistakes everyone else dose. My one goal form the first day going to Darnassus seeing the big flaming shoulders on a mean looking guy was to get them, that is all I want. I need to hit 70 and find a group that can help me archive my goals and to teach me the ways of the level 70.

You are not correct, but not entirely wrong. Trueshot helps all Physical DPS. BW/BW(lol) does only help the hunters DPS. You forgot about 1 key talent that BM gets. Ferocious Inspiration. That increases damage for all DPS, both physical and magical. So in the end FI > TSA.

With 20% Crit(yes for the hunter), which procs Frenzy and Kill Comand, you could get a good estimated number if you guess that FI will be up and active for 85%-92% of a raid boss fight. 92% would be closer to reality, where as it drops to 85% if you have to pull your pet out for extended periods of time.

Another thing to consider, which I could be wrong on, since I don't remember grouping with 2 MM hunters. I don't believe TSA stacks. If it works like other(read: paladin)Auras then you can only have 1 type of the same aura, so 2 MM hunters you would only get the effect of 1 TSA. Where FI does stack.

It's not really that high if you think about it(which is where I pulled these numbers from when I guessed at the percentages). The only thing I am really unsure about is the pets crit chance. I would like to say it scales with the Hunter's or it may even carry over from the hunters. I really am not sure. But my crit is at 24.xx%. Just to be fair, lets say it carries over to 20% crit for my pet.

My pet's attack speed is I belive is the low to mid 1.XX seconds), but let's put it at 2 seconds. Now, the buff lasts 10 seconds, that's 5 hits in that time, which 1/5 is 20% so on paper it's gauranteed the pet will crit and renew FI before it even runs out. Of course playing is not the same as paper, and you can go without a crit for a few seconds or more.

But just taking the attack speed and the 20% crit chance you can see that 85-92% is actually a pretty reasonable number.