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#1 Jan 10 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm leveling a druid (61 atm) but my main is a hunter. On him, I have a couple of shot rotation macros that fire a set sequence of shots designed to get the most bang for my mana buck. They're all timed so that no cooldowns are clipped, etc.

I've tried to do the same on my druid, but have found it impractical so far. In cat form, I want to get to 5 combo points as fast as possible then use a finishing move. I'm finding, though, that I sometimes miss mangle 2-3 times in a row before it hits and I get the CP. I don't want to use a finishing move prematurely, but I also can't anticipate how many misses I have. So now I'm manually spamming my various hit buttons.

Is such a rotation possible? Or even better, has anyone devised a method to create our own rotations up based on a 100 energy system and adaptable to our talents, gear and other factors?

#2 Jan 10 2008 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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easymode does not exist for druids - I know it sounds harsh, but you will actually have to play yourself when playing as a druid if you want to do your best.
#3 Jan 10 2008 at 2:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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thats simply not going to happen if youre feral. even if youre not itll be hard, but if you are feral its damn near impossible. you could go pounce > mangle crit > shred crit and be at 5 cp with enough energy for a finisher in under 8 seconds. you could also miss mangle, miss shred, have your next mangle dodged, your next one parried, and not get 5 cp by the time your white attacks paw the mob down.

as a hunter, all you need to worry about is missing, not dodges or parries. with a druid (or rogue for that matter) you cant do that, even if you're attacking a mob from behind with enough hit rating to mitigate misses (it can still dodge).
#4 Jan 11 2008 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the input. That was my guess, but I wanted to be sure. There's just too many ways to get to 5 combo points to macro it out.

But I wouldn't call macros 'easymode' by any means. 'Efficientmode' perhaps? Finding the best and most effective method of maxing DPS, whatever the class, is rarely easy.
#5 Jan 11 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe moonkin has something like this. Don't know, because I never played too much as one, but maybe it would include wrath, moonfire, starfire, insect swarm and FF. Don't know, though.
#6 Jan 11 2008 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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The closest thing i have for that is a macro that does the following:

If im stealth, Pounce
If im not stealthed and not in combat, Stealth
If im not stealthed and in combat, Mangle

So most altercations start with pressing the same button twice (or even thrice as I run up to a mob out of stealth) --> Stealth, Pounce, Mangle... then its on to other buttons (shred, fff)

I've tried stringing longer rotations together, but either the situation doesnt always call for that same rotation and/or I too often find myself at the wrong spot in the rotation for the situation.

-B
#7 Jan 11 2008 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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But I wouldn't call macros 'easymode' by any means. 'Efficientmode' perhaps? Finding the best and most effective method of maxing DPS, whatever the class, is rarely easy.


Autoshot, Steadyshot, Autoshot, Steadyshot, Autoshot, Steadyshot, Autoshot, Steadyshot, Kill Command isn't exactly complex.
#8 Jan 11 2008 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Auto/Steady/KC repeat is the most basic of SR's but not the end all and be all. Good hunters craft their own rotations based on their weapon speed, talents and other factors.

Again, it's about maximizing DPS auto/steady does not do that everytime in every situation.

But that's getting off topic for the druid forums. My apologies for that and my thanks for your input.
#9 Jan 11 2008 at 3:17 PM Rating: Good
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If im stealth, Pounce
If im not stealthed and not in combat, Stealth
If im not stealthed and in combat, Mangle


I have similar macros. One is Mangle (pounce if stealthed). The other is Shred (ravage if stealthed)

Unfortunately, the last patch broke them and I haven't had time to fix them yet. I did a bit of reading and they made a change where you can put an ! before the spell name to do something differently. Not exactly sure, but I think I might have to add it to my macros - like /cast !mangle(cat)()


Hopefully I can get it working again. It has been a bit silly stealthing up to people in BG's then just opening with mangle because I don't have pounce or ravage on my toolbars (other than in these non-functioning macros).
#10 Jan 12 2008 at 1:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Doesn't work for moonkin either, since that was mentioned. If they're on bosses, they're going to want to keep IS and MF on the boss, and possibly FF as well, and they can and will resist occasionally.

And shot macros are only really "difficult" outside of the game, setting them up. Once you're in-game with it set up, at most it's pretty much a choice between auto/steady, cc-friendly 1:1.5, or 1:1.5 with multi (depending on your spec), and you hit that button a lot, fast, until something changes (CC, Rapid Fire, whatever). Nothing like the in-combat complexity of some other classes.
#11 Jan 20 2008 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Even though hunters may be on a 1:1.5 rotation (adding multi or arcane into an auto-steady) or a 1:1 where they replace some steady shots with arcane or multishot, it's still based on CD's and then the steady/auto spam. Hits and misses don't even factor in.

RPZip, don't forget mend pet and hunter's mark.
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