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#1 Jan 09 2008 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
I was talking to a mage in my guild today about gear when he stared going off about how the spellfire set is better then the T4 and even T5. Now I understand the T4... but the T5 really got me. I started telling him about the stat differences and when I got around to +int he suprised me with the comment, "mana isn't really that important". Seeing as how he hasn't played a mage past kara (he HAS played other toons up to SSC) I figured I'd explain to him that not all bosses will drop in 3 min.

Now first of all lets get somthing stright. I'm pretty new to wow. I've played a lock to 42, warrior to 68, twinked a rogue at 19, then lvl'd a mage to 70. If I haven't learned things on my own then I have from my 2 friends that have played since it first came out. I've done Kara, Gruuls, most of ZA and Mags.. that's it.

K, back to the story. After telling him about why I though +int is important (long fights) he blasted me with a theory I've never heard of. He belives that by dealing a assload of dmg from the start. Blowing all CDs, mana gem, and pots... that it's then ok to be oom halfway though a fight. Then he'll just cast scorch when he can till clearcasting procs and toss in a fireball. Use a pot when he can again then all out again... scorchs, fireballs, pyros, fireblasts... then back to scorch.

Really, I tried talking to him about it but he belives that this is ok and will put him at the top of DPS. Who has issues here???
#2 Jan 09 2008 at 10:35 PM Rating: Good
He is dumb, or just misinformed.

1) Spellfire/FSW is about on-par with tier5 (tier5 edges it out for the other stat bonuses)

2) Int is important, but less so when you have decent mana regen (shadow priest + shaman, etc in your party)

3) I try to have a good gem/pot rotation.
#3 Jan 09 2008 at 11:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anobix wrote:
2) Int is important, but less so when you have decent mana regen (shadow priest + shaman, etc in your party)


Exactly. It's actually even more important than it was a couple mini-patches ago thanks to the change to evocation. But still less important than the regen.


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K, back to the story. After telling him about why I though +int is important (long fights) he blasted me with a theory I've never heard of. He belives that by dealing a assload of dmg from the start. Blowing all CDs, mana gem, and pots... that it's then ok to be oom halfway though a fight. Then he'll just cast scorch when he can till clearcasting procs and toss in a fireball. Use a pot when he can again then all out again... scorchs, fireballs, pyros, fireblasts... then back to scorch.


Remind him that damage doesn't just come from coefficients and stats but also from the spell itself. If it helps, have him actually graph damage done. Help him to be truthful as he's doing it and see what you find out.

Edited, Jan 10th 2008 12:41am by Poldaran
#4 Jan 10 2008 at 2:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds to me like he wants / likes to see the big damage numbers, and has made up this wonderful story of how going OOM is ok, just to convince himself that he doesn't need int.

I know this, it's the kind of thing I tend to do ... the big difference is that I try to listen to a bunch of people who all know better than me ... that's how I stay out of trouble.

Spell damage is great, big numbers are great, but when you are fighting for your life at the beginning of a fight because you've pulled agro by unleashing the full fury of the sun, then you go OOM halfway through and can only scorch, you're going to be pulling some nasty comments from your raid leader !
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