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this is my rant as the title says. i have now been kicked out of 2 raiding guilds because of my voice. i am a teen so i sound like a teen and as soon as i get on voice chat they kick me out of the guild for being a kid! I finally found a guild that doesnt care and am happily raiding kara. now i know this is a more general question but hey i am a hunter and i only read hunter forums. i was wondering if people think this is fair and if u agree with it. Also anyone else have this problem? i mean face it ive been growing up with this stuff. im better on computers then my comp yech teacher and im sure that if i was playing pong or something then i would be beat by someone older that me cause its THIER generation. I mean COME ON!!! i am done and i hope u enjoyed it.
I wouldnt let you in my guild just like I wouldnt let my own kids read what I type there.
It has nothing to do with your comp literacy or the way you play.
/shrug
It has nothing to do with your comp literacy or the way you play.
/shrug
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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 11:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well ya but the people that kicked me out were @$$es. its not like i never hear "bad" words even tho i dont use them but i mean i go to High school! everyone talks pretty bad...
I don't know if I enjoyed it, but it sure was.. pointless?
First of all, why did you post it on a Hunter related forum? It has nothing to do with you being a Hunter and everything to do with you being a very teeny teenager, apparently. You even knew this at the time you wrote the post, yet, you continued to post it in the wrong forum?
Also, paragraphs are good. And so are capitalized letters after punctuation marks. And 'you' instead of 'u'. If you want to come off as a mature teenager, using the actual word instead of an IM abbreviation that makes you look young and lazy might be a good idea.
Just a thought. Hopefully you don't talk like you type because that might be reason why you got kicked out of the guilds.
And don't take this personally. I'm sure you're a great player and I don't mean to offend you, but that's how I see it. Being a 22-year-old foreigner with mediocre English skills.
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 8:29pm by Mazra
First of all, why did you post it on a Hunter related forum? It has nothing to do with you being a Hunter and everything to do with you being a very teeny teenager, apparently. You even knew this at the time you wrote the post, yet, you continued to post it in the wrong forum?
Also, paragraphs are good. And so are capitalized letters after punctuation marks. And 'you' instead of 'u'. If you want to come off as a mature teenager, using the actual word instead of an IM abbreviation that makes you look young and lazy might be a good idea.
Just a thought. Hopefully you don't talk like you type because that might be reason why you got kicked out of the guilds.
And don't take this personally. I'm sure you're a great player and I don't mean to offend you, but that's how I see it. Being a 22-year-old foreigner with mediocre English skills.
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 8:29pm by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
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Posted: Jan 08 2008 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i posted it in hunter forum cause i never go anywhere else but ya it is pointless and ya im sorry for taking up forum space and wasting a minute of ur life but i was ticked off.
Honestly, if you talk the way you type, I would probably kick you too. At the very least you would be on mute(but muting a raid member is only hurting the raid, so the kick would be more affective, and less detrimental to the raid).
Your block of text may not seem like a big deal, but it is very hard to read. As such it is inconsiderate to the forum goers to post such a block of text. It shows a lack of respect, may not be an intentional thing, but it is there.
If that attitude carries over to vent, I would wager one of those people that just talk to talk, and not really contribute anything worthwhile. Plus having an annoying voice(while not your fault in any way) only adds onto that negative vibe.
Is it harsh? Yes. Is it judgemental? Yes.
Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the way things are. It is their perogative. My only advice is to keep looking for a guild that will accept you and keep you. Or get a little bass in the voice ;-).
Your block of text may not seem like a big deal, but it is very hard to read. As such it is inconsiderate to the forum goers to post such a block of text. It shows a lack of respect, may not be an intentional thing, but it is there.
If that attitude carries over to vent, I would wager one of those people that just talk to talk, and not really contribute anything worthwhile. Plus having an annoying voice(while not your fault in any way) only adds onto that negative vibe.
Is it harsh? Yes. Is it judgemental? Yes.
Sorry to be so blunt, but it's the way things are. It is their perogative. My only advice is to keep looking for a guild that will accept you and keep you. Or get a little bass in the voice ;-).
imagoodhunter wrote:
well ya but the people that kicked me out were @$$es. its not like i never hear "bad" words even tho i dont use them but i mean i go to High school! everyone talks pretty bad...
Honestly I doubt this is why you got kicked. They probably want a mature 21 and up guild only. If you told them you were when you joined then they have the right to kick you. (not saying you did but just in case)
Now with that being said, it isn't fair to judge a book by its cover. As a rule of thumb though kids are imature in nature and tend to act out. If you don't great on you but adults try to avoid this.
GL with your new guild.
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Well they didn't say that it was 21+ guild, they just said "looking for 70 hunter with Great dps thats kara keyed and geared" and when i demonstrated this they said "wow ur what we wanted" and then i logged on to vent server and said "hey"...then silence...then poof i am kicked.
It's the Guild Masters decision to remove you from the guild. I just don't want any conversation like these while I'm trying to raid.
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Well they didn't say that it was 21+ guild, they just said "looking for 70 hunter with Great dps thats kara keyed and geared" and when i demonstrated this they said "wow ur what we wanted" and then i logged on to vent server and said "hey"...then silence...then poof i am kicked.
Twice? I kinda doubt its your voice.
I don't know what part of use the proper spelling of things instead of IM abreviations for words. YOU, not U. Stuff like that will get you further in this place than just become unable to be read by the general public.
I understand you are a kid. No one is disputing that. But try to act more mature in places like this. Don't fight chang adapt.
I understand you are a kid. No one is disputing that. But try to act more mature in places like this. Don't fight chang adapt.
I have issues with players that insist on cussing every 3rd or 4th word. First, it's a waste of words, keep your verbage short and to the point on voice chat. Second, it's rude as you have no idea whom you might be offending. Third, it's totally unnecessary. Swearing is for emphasis, and when you swear often, it loses its emphasis ability. It becomes a replacement for "um".
So, if I were in a guild where they kicked a teenager because they wanted to swear all the time, I'd /gquit in a heartbeat. That is NOT a mature guild. Just because they are adults doesn't make them mature.
If a player was skilled, able to pull their own weight, then I don't care if they are 12, so long as they understand and play honorably. I've met 12 year olds with more on the ball than most 30 year olds. Being young is not equal with being immature.
Now, imagoodhunter, listen to what is being said. So far, you are not demonstrating an ability to do that which is why it keeps getting told to you over and over. Chat slang like "ur" is not a replacement for "you're" when you are typing on a full size keyboard into a forum.
WoW is not a replacement for real life or a real education. You can learn and socialize on WoW but I would never mistake the interactions there for face to face communication skill building exercises. People type things they would never say to another human face to face. It's a sad truth. So, learn to make the distinction of when to use what kind of language and what kind of speaking style.
We'd welcome anyone that can hold their own, act intelligent and be polite into our guild. Yeah, we have high standards... the first one listed is optional... ^_^
So, if I were in a guild where they kicked a teenager because they wanted to swear all the time, I'd /gquit in a heartbeat. That is NOT a mature guild. Just because they are adults doesn't make them mature.
If a player was skilled, able to pull their own weight, then I don't care if they are 12, so long as they understand and play honorably. I've met 12 year olds with more on the ball than most 30 year olds. Being young is not equal with being immature.
Now, imagoodhunter, listen to what is being said. So far, you are not demonstrating an ability to do that which is why it keeps getting told to you over and over. Chat slang like "ur" is not a replacement for "you're" when you are typing on a full size keyboard into a forum.
WoW is not a replacement for real life or a real education. You can learn and socialize on WoW but I would never mistake the interactions there for face to face communication skill building exercises. People type things they would never say to another human face to face. It's a sad truth. So, learn to make the distinction of when to use what kind of language and what kind of speaking style.
We'd welcome anyone that can hold their own, act intelligent and be polite into our guild. Yeah, we have high standards... the first one listed is optional... ^_^
Dear God. I did not enjoy that rant, if it was even qualified as one. As for the guild part, there is no way that I would let you into my guild if you typed like that. My eyes are bleeding. As for your voice problem... oh well, can't have that fixed.
My guild tends to be very cautious inviting younger player to join. the reason for this that younger players tend to take the simple bantering that goes on in vent too far. They become annoying because they haven't learned where the limits are yet. It's not that they are bad people, just that they haven't had the experience older people have. Is it fair? who cares, it's my guild not theirs 
If it's just your voice then I would think that's a bit odd.
Also Kids are all idiots these days.
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 3:26pm by Xsarus
If it's just your voice then I would think that's a bit odd. Also Kids are all idiots these days.
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 3:26pm by Xsarus
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Why thank for that compliment Xsarus. I tend to see myself as a very intellectual and intelligent being. However, you may think what you wish. That is something that I have no control over.
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Also Kids are all idiots these days.
You mean they use to be smart and not just smartArses??? J/K
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 1:44pm by HitashLevat
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Why thank for that compliment Xsarus. I tend to see myself as a very intellectual and intelligent being. However, you may think what you wish. That is something that I have no control over.
We have a couple younger members who are great. We've also had a few problems. Edited, Jan 8th 2008 3:41pm by Xsarus
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Yeah we had a few people b!tching about not being able to withdrawl money the first day they were in the guild. I told them if they had complaints bring it up to the guild leader. they left the next day... I think she told them no.
Yeah, I figured it was a joke. :D
TBH, the worst players in wow aren't the young people, it's really those "I WAS AN FFX GAMER, SO I KNOW ALL ABOUT MMORPGS L2P n00b!!!!" Seriously, there are some retarded grown-ups in the wow society, but we never complain about them, do we now? we just do as all generations before us have done, and blame the youth (who, generally, actually are rather 1337/leet/good whatever you wanna call it)
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Sad to say, but...
"im better on computers then my comp yech teacher" and maybe "THIER generation" could beat me at "pong". I'll begin, and end, with these thoughts/quotes, as discussed below:
First, I'll bet your Comp Tech teacher knows how to capitalize, punctuate and spell, and he IS teaching the class for SOME apparent reason. Communication skills play a large factor in inter-game relationships of any sort.
Secondly, and unfortunately, the typical "I'm younger and therefore better at computing because I'm a teenager in the technology era" attitude is exactly why I usually avoid the teen crowd altogether, as do many other adults. You may be right, and you may very well have greater computer gaming skills than the rest of the entire world, but if you share that information as easily and as often as you did in this short rant, I think I'd kick you too. Obviously, they're already a "raiding guild", doing well without your "l33t phr34king skillzors", so maybe try a less confrontational approach?
Don't get me wrong, though. Maturity is the key, in my opinion, not age. If the player were 48 years old and displayed the same qualities as what I picked up from your rant, I think I'd kick him too.
No offense. I know I come across as "holier than thou" in my response, and a bit judgemental at that, but perhaps you can glean something from my words and find a healthy spot in your new guild. ;)
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 5:07pm by Sketso
"im better on computers then my comp yech teacher" and maybe "THIER generation" could beat me at "pong". I'll begin, and end, with these thoughts/quotes, as discussed below:
First, I'll bet your Comp Tech teacher knows how to capitalize, punctuate and spell, and he IS teaching the class for SOME apparent reason. Communication skills play a large factor in inter-game relationships of any sort.
Secondly, and unfortunately, the typical "I'm younger and therefore better at computing because I'm a teenager in the technology era" attitude is exactly why I usually avoid the teen crowd altogether, as do many other adults. You may be right, and you may very well have greater computer gaming skills than the rest of the entire world, but if you share that information as easily and as often as you did in this short rant, I think I'd kick you too. Obviously, they're already a "raiding guild", doing well without your "l33t phr34king skillzors", so maybe try a less confrontational approach?
Don't get me wrong, though. Maturity is the key, in my opinion, not age. If the player were 48 years old and displayed the same qualities as what I picked up from your rant, I think I'd kick him too.
No offense. I know I come across as "holier than thou" in my response, and a bit judgemental at that, but perhaps you can glean something from my words and find a healthy spot in your new guild. ;)
Edited, Jan 8th 2008 5:07pm by Sketso
imagoodhunter wrote:
Well they didn't say that it was 21+ guild, they just said "looking for 70 hunter with Great dps thats kara keyed and geared" and when i demonstrated this they said "wow ur what we wanted" and then i logged on to vent server and said "hey"...then silence...then poof i am kicked.
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imagoodhunter wrote:
Well they didn't say that it was 21+ guild, they just said "looking for 70 hunter with Great dps thats kara keyed and geared" and when i demonstrated this they said "wow ur what we wanted" and then i logged on to vent server and said "hey"...then silence...then poof i am kicked.
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Okay so I am responding to this as a 16 year old with a really deep voice.
I play Counterstrike alongside WoW and some other games. One thing I positively hate in CS is the <10 kids with the outrageously high voices. It's not so much the high voices that sicks the ice pick into my ears, it's the high voice being paired with the inability to judge when to shut up, honestly I can take the voice, but when the mic is on for 99% of the time it drives me insane.
I also am on TS with a kid that has a really obnoxious high voice, and I have dealt with it for years now, thank God though that puberty has finally fixed him, so mind you from the start you have a strike against you.
Honestly you sound like another teenager who thinks they are the best, I don't know if it's true, but be mature and act humble. I've been in the "same" guild (Relatively speaking, we have kept the same great core group of players through break ups, mutinies, splits, and merges.) for a year now, I enjoy their company and I am pretty sure they enjoy mine. There are less than 5 people in my guild still in high school, some are college students, the rest are regular adults, and then a few well aged individuals. We have been through thick and thin, kept the game casual, and always lead with Life comes first.
In my opinion it is fair, you don't pay their monthly, it's their guild, get over it.
Don't respond to "LFG Well geared player... blah blah blah... for guild" that instantly invite you into the guild. You're better off puging with people and showing that you have skill, so that your name gets spread around, and possibly one day some one will say "Hey you are a pretty good player, go to www.abc.com and post an application, would love to have you in the guild". Applications mean that the guild is either hardcore or just mature and knows what kind of people it wants. This also lets people know who you are and what to expect.
Our oldest and loved members left the guild because of drama etc, when he wanted to come back to the guild he posted an application. Mind you this guy has gotten invites from so many hardcore raid guilds because he is a great player and great person, so naturally he would only have to ask for an invite from one of us and he would have been invited without discussion. But he instead posted an application, that showed class, humbleness, and respect.
HAHAHA, that reminds me of when the hi-pitched voice kid on my TS got beat up by his brother and it played over TS, that was a hilarious day.
I play Counterstrike alongside WoW and some other games. One thing I positively hate in CS is the <10 kids with the outrageously high voices. It's not so much the high voices that sicks the ice pick into my ears, it's the high voice being paired with the inability to judge when to shut up, honestly I can take the voice, but when the mic is on for 99% of the time it drives me insane.
I also am on TS with a kid that has a really obnoxious high voice, and I have dealt with it for years now, thank God though that puberty has finally fixed him, so mind you from the start you have a strike against you.
Honestly you sound like another teenager who thinks they are the best, I don't know if it's true, but be mature and act humble. I've been in the "same" guild (Relatively speaking, we have kept the same great core group of players through break ups, mutinies, splits, and merges.) for a year now, I enjoy their company and I am pretty sure they enjoy mine. There are less than 5 people in my guild still in high school, some are college students, the rest are regular adults, and then a few well aged individuals. We have been through thick and thin, kept the game casual, and always lead with Life comes first.
In my opinion it is fair, you don't pay their monthly, it's their guild, get over it.
Don't respond to "LFG Well geared player... blah blah blah... for guild" that instantly invite you into the guild. You're better off puging with people and showing that you have skill, so that your name gets spread around, and possibly one day some one will say "Hey you are a pretty good player, go to www.abc.com and post an application, would love to have you in the guild". Applications mean that the guild is either hardcore or just mature and knows what kind of people it wants. This also lets people know who you are and what to expect.
Our oldest and loved members left the guild because of drama etc, when he wanted to come back to the guild he posted an application. Mind you this guy has gotten invites from so many hardcore raid guilds because he is a great player and great person, so naturally he would only have to ask for an invite from one of us and he would have been invited without discussion. But he instead posted an application, that showed class, humbleness, and respect.
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It's the Guild Masters decision to remove you from the guild. I just don't want any conversation like these while I'm trying to raid.
HAHAHA, that reminds me of when the hi-pitched voice kid on my TS got beat up by his brother and it played over TS, that was a hilarious day.
imagoodhunter wrote:
this is my rant as the title says. i have now been kicked out of 2 raiding guilds because of my voice.
If you need friends to chat with, find them at school, on sports teams, church, clubs, scouts, whatever. You don't need friends on the internet, even if you need to maintain friendly relations to accomplish game goals together. There is a world of difference between the two sets of italicized words.
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