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SV gearing options...how I loathe theeFollow

#1 Jan 08 2008 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
Despite the title, this isn't a rant so much as an observation.

Our guild downed Curator last night for the nth time, and for the first time, he dropped the Hunter/Mage/Lock T4 glove token. There were 3 of us in line to roll on it (2 Hunters and a Warlock). First Hunter rolled...low roll. Warlock rolled...mid 40s. I rolled...52. I sent the raid leader a /w before I rolled asking them to not distribute the token to me just yet if I were to get the high roll. After I got the high roll, I sent the raid leader a /w again asking them to give them to the other Hunter. That's what they did, and I was satisfied with the outcome. (The Warlock regularly tops the damage meters, and the other Hunter does a good job skill-wise but could really use some gear upgrades). Huzzah! Our second group 1 Hunter got rid of their last green, my epic gloves from Heroic Mechanar still serve me well, and everyone is happy.

Or are they?

I ran Heroics almost nightly for a period of time to save the badges for my Shifting Camouflage Pants. In the process of running Kara and the occasional Heroic, it was nothing to save the badges for my bracers. Even the heroic badge gloves aren't that much of an upgrade over what I have. What I'm finding is that short of T5/6 gear, nothing really seems to offer much by way of upgrades that make me say, "OOOOO!!"

If anything, most of the upgrades I see as being possible (with one or two exceptions) represent a reduction in my Agility which, considering my gear, is not all that great (666 Agility unbuffed). I've got my eye on a Skyfire Hawk Bow from Prince, but the way our guild is progressing, just downing Prince looks to be at best a couple of weeks off. Then I have to hope it drops. Then I have to hope to win the roll against 1 or 2 other Hunters. Legacy would be a bit of a boost, and there are a couple of other pieces that would be a benefit but they're few and far between and always seem to come with a tradeoff.

Is this common for raiding? Do other Hunters (not limited to SV necessarily) find this to be the case? Our guild is casual, which suits me just fine. We bring along a lot of people that are nowhere near what a lot of you might consider "Kara ready" in terms of essential stats. It's going to be some time before we're farming Kara start to finish, much less progressing to 25 mans. If the slow road saves me from the headaches of hard-core raiding guilds, so be it. I'll take the slow road. I just wish the slow road had a few more perks :P
#2 Jan 08 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Recalling my own experience (and note that my recent post about the T4 --> T5 transition is basically similar to what you're experiencing), I think that you've hit the point where huge gear improvements are few and far between. The jump from 70s blues to epics seems to involve big leaps, but after that replacing epics with epic "upgrades" from higher level bosses become lateral in some respects, or involve some real compromises. You being SV spec and so dependent on Agi gear, it's probably even worse for you than it is for MM or BM specc'd hunters.
#3 Jan 08 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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And go for Wolfslayer, its better then any other weapon besides Barrel-Blade Longrifle from doomwalker and Bristleblitz striker out of BT.
Also, try working towards the S3 arena Axe as its the best thing until the sword from Kael'thas (even though it doesnt have any agility, +35 agi fixes that ;) )
Those are 2 relatively easy to get and very good pieces of gear you can work towards ^^

Oh and the leather gloves from attumen are pretty good i believe and they sport a good amount of agility.

And besides that, i cant really help you all that much because i dont know what gear you have...
#4 Jan 08 2008 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
I think part of my problem was that I got "easy" access to some rather nice epics. S3 chest. Shifting Camouflage Pants. Steadying Bracers. Gear that's well beyond Kara in terms if iLevel (recognizing that the S3 chest isn't as good as it's PvE equivalent for PvE activities). I was reviewing the Hunter T4 set and there's nothing (aside from perhaps the helm or shoulders) that would be worth switching to. Now, however, the sweet no S3 stuff and BoJ epics make Kara gear look like...too much work lol Also, a part of my frustration comes from knowing that I have the gear and adequate skill to be participating in full Kara clears, but as a guild we're just now going through the phase of convincing our would-be Karazhan participants that no, ding 70 -> key -> Kara is not going to work. Go get some gear. (Our Friday night run this week has been scrubbed in favor of 5-man runs to get more people geared).
#5 Jan 08 2008 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Didnt the T4 shoulders suck ***?
I thought beastmaw was a lot better...
#6 Jan 08 2008 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
Aethien wrote:
Didnt the T4 shoulders suck ***?
I thought beastmaw was a lot better...


I'd have to double check the shoulders...I'm fairly certain the head would be a good upgrade, though. Not counting trinkets, I've got 3 blues left on my toon: head, cloak, and one ring. Those are the pieces I tend to look for first, and it *sucks* lol
#7 Jan 09 2008 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Well if you're trying to squeeze in more agility changing your leg enchant to clefthide would net you 10 more. Choker of vile intent would add another 20. You could also change your gloves' enchantment to +15 agility.

Edited, Jan 9th 2008 4:11pm by gourmand
#8 Jan 09 2008 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
As SV hunter I skipped T4 gloves and shoulders, low agility. Leather gloves off of Attune I kept untill T5(even then was hard to part with, fantastic 35 agi and 2 sockets) you could try the Gruul gloves but I've never saw'em drop. Anyway I'm jumping ahead, I find my agility hasn't gone up that much in awhile where as my AP, stam and crit have. Eventually you'll plateu where upping your agil will sacrifice too much of your other stats to be worthwhile.
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