I have pondered for a while over the finer points of what my Arena build is going to consist of, and noticed that i disagree with alot of the shadow priests i have seen on the Armory 2v2 ladder.
heres what i came up with: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html?5052020130020000000000000000000000000000000050252010251123051051
By all means disagree with me, all critisism will be seen as constructive critisism (with the exception of,"YOUR BUILD SUX!")
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That would be pretty much my pvp build, who would change anything about that? o.O"
Is this for 5v5? If so I guess it looks pretty good.
If not maybe try to drop some of the group damage boosting talents and pick up individual ones like reducing MB cast time and more crits.
Even for 5v5 I'm not quite sure how good VT is. Its a middle-of-the-road DoT that isn't even an instant cast and realistically you should be dropping opponents before VT even really pays off with mana returns.
If not maybe try to drop some of the group damage boosting talents and pick up individual ones like reducing MB cast time and more crits.
Even for 5v5 I'm not quite sure how good VT is. Its a middle-of-the-road DoT that isn't even an instant cast and realistically you should be dropping opponents before VT even really pays off with mana returns.
A couple of questions. Not being critical, just wondering why you did what you did.
Why five points in "Silent Resolve".
Why zero points in "Improved Mind Blast"?
Why "Vampiric Touch"?
Agree with Mookus. Boost yourself first, others if you have the points.
Mookus wrote:
Is this for 5v5?
It's for is for 2v2 with warlock or rogue or mage.
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If not maybe try to drop some of the group damage boosting talents and pick up individual ones like reducing MB cast time and more crits.
In arena most people have so much Resi that putting points in Shadow Power will probably just increase my crit chance from a negative to somewhere near 0%.
Nobic wrote:
Why five points in "Silent Resolve".
I dont want my buffs to be dispelled by any locks, hunters, priests or shammys.
Nobic wrote:
Why zero points in "Improved Mind Blast"?
A good question, some wiser shadow priests than I have figured out that with casting times and GCDs you only need 1 point in it to increase damage, and i thought i would rather put that extra point into Misery for 1% more damage than have 0.5sec off my MB CD.
Nobic wrote:
Why "Vampiric Touch"?
I went for VT because it is another dot and thus will increase my dps considerably. Why would any shadow priest not want to do more damage?
Again my only gripe with VT would be that it isn't an instant cast and it really isn't that great of a DoT. You're probably better off getting in an extra MF. Maybe put that point somewhere else... but I guess everything else checks out in explanation.
I believe that it is a nice, tidy PvP build. Mine is very similar. Hope you have fun melting some faces :)
VT is very nice to have, the biggest (and pretty much only) problem with is to actually cast it. I mean, it's np when u aren't focusfired (which is when u really want the extra dps) but in a 2v2 most ppl will go after the sPriest first.
Silent Resolve is nice. A 20% chance to at least waste a 1.5 sec global cooldown on a pally trying to cleanse a dot or another priest / a shaman trying to dispell / purge you is also nice aswell. It's like u just gained another 1.5 sec silence ;)
Also if you want an extra-tip, get the s3 gloves first. Reduced PS cooldown ftw.
Silent Resolve is nice. A 20% chance to at least waste a 1.5 sec global cooldown on a pally trying to cleanse a dot or another priest / a shaman trying to dispell / purge you is also nice aswell. It's like u just gained another 1.5 sec silence ;)
Also if you want an extra-tip, get the s3 gloves first. Reduced PS cooldown ftw.
This is about what I run with. 20/0/41 is pretty much considered the best build you can run with, at least in 2v2 and 3v3. VT is still a DoT and you'll still get it off, and it'll be ticking while you're throwing around those shields and possibly PoM/BindHeal (you ARE throwing around heals, right?). It's got extra mana efficiency, which is what high-tier 2v2's and most psriest 3v3's revolve around (burn/survival groups). And 5/5 Shadow Weaving is near-required - that's one of the things that makes spriests so dangerous, is the 8+ debuffs you can stack on someone in a matter of seconds.
For Silent Resolve, I feel it's a waste of 5 points. It's only 20% resistance for 5 points, and there's better stuff you could spend it on. Same with Shadow Power - the first 3 points will get you to zero crit, and is that 6% crit really worth 5 points?
For Silent Resolve, I feel it's a waste of 5 points. It's only 20% resistance for 5 points, and there's better stuff you could spend it on. Same with Shadow Power - the first 3 points will get you to zero crit, and is that 6% crit really worth 5 points?
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Is blessed resilience worth speccing for in a shadow prist's build? For pvp survivability I was looking at something like this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxx0bZfV0hZVMTd0tR0tx
It seems to give a bit more survivability for arena, although I'm not high enough to really test these things. So it's merely a theory.
It seems to give a bit more survivability for arena, although I'm not high enough to really test these things. So it's merely a theory.
Thanks alot to everyone for all the great feedback :D
in particular to SixthAcolyte, i never thought about Blessed Recovery for a shadow priest, i think this modification on the idea would work well for me:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html?5002000000000000000000230500300000000000000050242110251123051051
although it wouldnt hold up so well against casters, as i wont be getting struck with melee or ranged and i dont have any Silent Resolve
in particular to SixthAcolyte, i never thought about Blessed Recovery for a shadow priest, i think this modification on the idea would work well for me:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html?5002000000000000000000230500300000000000000050242110251123051051
although it wouldnt hold up so well against casters, as i wont be getting struck with melee or ranged and i dont have any Silent Resolve
Not getting Vampiric Touch in arena is taking you from decent dps/incredible utility to ****** dps/decent utility. Never skip VT.
Not having Silent Resolve isn't a big deal either. Waste of five talents, in my opinion. You should already have 8 debuffs stacked on a person, with 5 of those being refreshed every few seconds (Weaving). The points are better spent elsewhere. Pretty much the same with Shadow Power - five points, and you're more than likely at -4% crit or worse anywho against a well-geared team. Is five points worth bringing that up?
Not having Silent Resolve isn't a big deal either. Waste of five talents, in my opinion. You should already have 8 debuffs stacked on a person, with 5 of those being refreshed every few seconds (Weaving). The points are better spent elsewhere. Pretty much the same with Shadow Power - five points, and you're more than likely at -4% crit or worse anywho against a well-geared team. Is five points worth bringing that up?
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Not having Silent Resolve isn't a big deal either. Waste of five talents, in my opinion. You should already have 8 debuffs stacked on a person, with 5 of those being refreshed every few seconds (Weaving).
I always thought of silent resolve as a way of preventing dispells of your own buffs, not enemy debuffs.
Edited, Jan 11th 2008 3:23pm by SixthAcolyte
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